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The pat down didn't seem inappropriate to me and the agent was speaking to her nicely, touching her gently and explaining all what she was doing. I think calling it "groping" or "intimate probing" is not at all accurate. And the kid doesn't look too bothered afterwards either.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Earthling</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865082"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
The pat down didn't seem inappropriate to me and the agent was speaking to her nicely, touching her gently and explaining all what she was doing. I think calling it "groping" or "intimate probing" is not at all accurate. And the kid doesn't look too bothered afterwards either.</div>
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I'm glad you said that or I wouldn't have watched it. I think the bit of it that made me feel uncomfortable was that the girl said she didn't it want it to happen. I know they're busy, but they could have taken more time to make her feel a bit more comfortable about it, instead of rushing through it. She probably felt like that whole thing was out of her control and that wouldn't be very pleasant.<br><br>
What was the 'drug' test they said they were giving her?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>exiled_expatriate</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865085"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/brood.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":brood:">... Jesus Christ. I'm inundated with people who think this is somehow acceptable.</div>
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Tell me about it! It's people like that that get us things like this. Wasn't like this when I first started flying & because I find it unacceptable, I will NEVER get on a plane again! WTH???
 

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Gawd Bless Amurka.<br><br>
Best country on the whole earth, obviously.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Earthling</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865082"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
The pat down didn't seem inappropriate to me and the agent was speaking to her nicely, touching her gently and explaining all what she was doing. I think calling it "groping" or "intimate probing" is not at all accurate. And the kid doesn't look too bothered afterwards either.</div>
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Agreed.<br><br>
I suspect that what's been upsetting to her is her parents' reaction afterwards and being subjected to interviews.
 

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Uh, this is a SIX YEAR OLD CHILD being treated like a suspect TERRORIST.
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>exiled_expatriate</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865085"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/brood.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":brood:">... Jesus Christ. I'm inundated with people who think this is somehow acceptable.</div>
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I think she'd have to be a little Muslim girl being forced to remove her "facial clothing" before you could expect people to feel outraged.
 

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Sure, there are obvious problems with treating a 6 year old as a terrorist. But that doesn't make it "groping" or "intimate probing".
 

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Was it unnecessary? Probably, from a logical standpoint. (I have no idea about the federal and legal standards about such things being necessary. If I were flying with children, I <i>certainly</i> would research it beforehand, and prepare the kiddos.)<br><br>
Was it done in an inappropriate way? I don't think so.<br><br>
Though if I were the agent and I <b>had</b> to pat down a child... if it were allowed to, I may have started with her front so she could see what I was doing before going to pat down behind her.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Earthling</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865285"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Sure, there are obvious problems with treating a 6 year old as a terrorist. But that doesn't make it "groping" or "intimate probing".</div>
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Agreed. "Intimate probing" makes it sound like their sticking pokers into orifices, which they clearly did not get even close to doing.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"> And there HAVE to be procedures for checking any person of any age if there is reason to believe they might be a security threat. You think a terrorist is above using a child to hide weapons on?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Earthling</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865082"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
The pat down didn't seem inappropriate to me and the agent was speaking to her nicely, touching her gently and explaining all what she was doing. I think calling it "groping" or "intimate probing" is not at all accurate. And the kid doesn't look too bothered afterwards either.</div>
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Agreed.<br><br>
It's sad, but if airport security didn't check children just because they're children, then you could quite easily get a child passing through with an explosive that an adult has strapped to them.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Earthling</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865296"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"> And there HAVE to be procedures for checking any person of any age if there is reason to believe they might be a security threat. <b>You think a terrorist is above using a child to hide weapons on?</b></div>
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This. As sad as it is <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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I think the most likely (or maybe just more-likely-to-actually-happen-on-a-regular-basis) concern is regular, non-terrorist people hiding drugs on a kid.<br><br>
As sad as THAT is, too.<br><br>
(People suck. Seriously.)
 

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Was it unnecessary? Probably, from a logical standpoint. (I have no idea about the federal and legal standards about such things being necessary. If I were flying with children, I <i>certainly</i> would research it beforehand, and prepare the kiddos.)<br><br>
Was it done in an inappropriate way? I don't think so.<br><br>
Though if I were the agent and I <b>had</b> to pat down a child... if it were allowed to, I may have started with her front so she could see what I was doing before going to pat down behind her.</div>
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Ditto
 

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Though if I were the agent and I <b>had</b> to pat down a child... if it were allowed to, I may have started with her front so she could see what I was doing before going to pat down behind her.</div>
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I would also take the time to explain it to them and tell them not to worry.
 

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I can't say I'm outraged, but I'm certainly saddened by the state of the world. About 6 months after the 9/11 terrorist attacks in New York, our family was in St. Louis visiting the Arch. My 1 1/2 year old and almost 4 year old were searched and patted down, as were our stroller and diaper bag. Personally, I did feel violated on behalf of my children, but I kept my cool while there and in explaining it to my son. I know that I am trustworthy, but to be honest, nobody else knows that about us. Overall, I'm glad that we weren't excluded just because of appearances. I feel the same way about this situation.<br><br>
This should probably go in the unpopular opinions thread. Flying is a luxury. When you buy a ticket, you are agreeing to that set of rules.
 

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Well, we didn't see what happened before the video started either.
 
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