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09-19-2019 11:12 AM
JesseG
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Originally Posted by muffintoldme View Post
I've been considering donating plasma in my spare time, and was wondering if vegans would have any more trouble with this than anyone else. I've done it in the past without a problem, but that was a few years ago and I've only been vegan for a few months. I can't think of why this would be a problem, but I wanted to make sure.

Thanks.
That will not be a problem. You will also get screened first before you can donate plasma so it all comes down to your overall health at the time of the physical exam.
07-26-2019 08:26 PM
David3
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It can take up to 90 for HIV to show up on a test. Hence why your (lying ass) friends should tell the truth on weather or not they'd slept with another man with 12 months of donating. Hell, someone ( 2 seperate people) infected people due to giving plasma after your comment in 2007 and 2010. Both were men who slept with men. Ugh. (And) Fyi- Being a crossdresser doesn't equate to being a homosexual.

Heterosexuals also contract HIV: https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/overview/index.html .
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07-26-2019 09:46 AM
VeganPoser My gay friends just lie.

As long as you are certain that you aren't a carrier for HIV then it doesn't matter. They only ask that because, traditionally, the gay population has a higher tendency to be a carrier for HIV. I've seen drag queens in there donating, I kid you not. The staff didn't know for sure but I did because I'd seen her preform at drag shows. How she got away with it I'm not sure, but she did! I say more power to her.[/quote]

It can take up to 90 for HIV to show up on a test. Hence why your (lying ass) friends should tell the truth on weather or not they'd slept with another man with 12 months of donating. Hell, someone ( 2 seperate people) infected people due to giving plasma after your comment in 2007 and 2010. Both were men who slept with men. Ugh. (And) Fyi- Being a crossdresser doesn't equate to being a homosexual.
07-26-2019 09:22 AM
VeganPoser
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Originally Posted by stellar26 View Post
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make sure you not one of them homosexual vegans. those aren't allowed.</div>
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My gay friends just lie.<br><br>
As long as you are certain that you aren't a carrier for HIV then it doesn't matter. They only ask that because, traditionally, the gay population has a higher tendency to be a carrier for HIV. I've seen drag queens in there donating, I kid you not. The staff didn't know for sure but I did because I'd seen her preform at drag shows. How she got away with it I'm not sure, but she did! I say more power to her.
How disgusting. It can take up to 90 for HIV to show up on a test. Hence why your (lying ass) friends should tell the truth on weather or not theyd slept with another man with 12 months of donating. Hell, someone infected 2 people due to giving plasma after your comment in 2007 and 2010. Both were men who slept with men. Ugh. (And) Fyi- Being a crossdresser doesnt equate to being a homosexual.
11-11-2004 03:38 PM
riceandbeans
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Originally Posted by Wolfahowl View Post

Could somebody just tell me if by giving blood I'm supporting animal testing? I'm in the US, if it matters.



i don't honestly know if you are supporting animal testing, but you are helping save human lives, which can be good. the way i see it, if our biggest animal rights problems were whether or not the company we donate our blood to tests on animals or not, and not 'are our shampoos/soaps/mascaras/window cleaners/air freshners/perfumes/toothpastes/etc.' tested on animals, i would be pretty damn satisfied, although of course i am against all animal testing.



i would assume with blood it is not supporting animal testing. like someone else in the forum said, the stuff they use to separate the blood may have been tested on animals, but that is over and done with to the best of my knowledge, although if it bothers you, i would recommend you look into it more.
11-11-2004 02:30 PM
empathanimal I donated plasma for a while to get some extra spending money in college. Didn't cause many problems until I started eating more fatty foods (this was before I went vegetarian), then some problems started. You can still see the tiny scar where the needle always went in my left arm, barely at all in my right where it went a couple times (They've almost always drawn blood from the left arm for me).



They always tested me for various things, including iron content, before I could donate.
11-11-2004 01:42 PM
GhostUser
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Originally Posted by kristadb View Post

blood prices? what is everyone talking about?



In Canada, you donate your blood and go home. If you give a number of times (I think 50+), you get to choose where your blood goes (ie ER, babies, burns, etc).



I'm not able to give blood. I am allowed to give plasma, but it's a bit of work and everytime I book and get the time, I end up getting a cold or flu and cannot go.



Nope, I work for Canadian Blood Services, You can never choose where your blood goes. The only way to do this is by a Directed Donation (which can only go to a family member, and must be requested by the Dr. and the Family, or an Autologous Donation, which goes back to yourself). Plus, Canada will only accept VOLUNTEER donations. We can't pay for blood or Plasma. Ever.



And ON TOPIC, the only way to know if you can donate is by trying. The USFDA governs what is acceptable as far as patient safety (where the blood goes) and the American Association of Blood Banks (AABB) governs what the donor suitability is. So there are two different bodies who have a say in who can donate.



Anyway, if you want to, go ahead and try, it is a good thing overall.



BTW the screening test for donors uses only copper sulphate. After some research I found that donating blood is NOT VEGETARIAN! Almost all of the reagents used for blood typing (from Immucor) are made from murine (mouse) anti-sera. Almost all of the reagents use bovine (cow) albumin as a medium. So donating blood or plasma is NOT VEGETARIAN.



If anyone has more questions about blood donation, screening, or testing, message me or email (just go to my profile)
11-11-2004 09:27 AM
rabid_child I'd think you'd just want to make sure you weren't anemic. I can't see any other contraindication.
11-11-2004 08:38 AM
kachina RE: blood prices, she may have been referring to the prices charged for blood, not money that donors get for blood (most blood is donated for free, unlike plasma which is usually "purchased" from the donor). What a lot of people don't realize is that when they donate their blood, the company they donate it to *sells* it to the hospitals, etc.



While it might seem wrong at first glance ("hey, I gave it to you free, and you're making money?!") the price charged for the blood covers the company's cost for personnel, equipment, transport, storage, supplies, and even those freebie donuts we get when donating.
11-11-2004 08:14 AM
GhostUser I tried selling plasma once a couple years back. I talked mucho crappola about how i'd sit there without any problems and get it done. After getting called to the back room I sat in the chair, smiled..and passed the hell out...all without even bieng touched.



I dont see a problem with it though..I dont think bieng vegan has anything to do with the ease of donating plasma.
11-11-2004 07:11 AM
stellar26
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Originally Posted by kpickell View Post

make sure you not one of them homosexual vegans. those aren't allowed.





My gay friends just lie.

As long as you are certain that you aren't a carrier for HIV then it doesn't matter. They only ask that because, traditionally, the gay population has a higher tendency to be a carrier for HIV. I've seen drag queens in there donating, I kid you not. The staff didn't know for sure but I did because I'd seen her preform at drag shows. How she got away with it I'm not sure, but she did! I say more power to her.
11-11-2004 06:53 AM
stellar26
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Originally Posted by kristadb View Post

Donating blood can be a problem if you are low in iron, but it is a non-issue for plasma donation.



There should not be any problems at all.



I donate pretty regularly- and YES iron levels can keep you from donating. They must be between 37 and 42. They also take your bloodpressure, resting heart rate, temperature, and protien levels.

There have been quite a few times that I've been prevented from donating due to low iron levels. Just be sure to eat a lot of spinach and raisens with orange juice (vit C helps you to absorb the iron better) at least 19 hours before donating and drink plenty of water (at least 8 glasses a day, EVERY day, and 22 ounces a few hours before you go in) to be sure that the process goes as quickly as possible. Also, be sure to eat something (like a sandwich) before going in to help with your blood sugar (you don't want to faint!).

It's a painless way to make a little extra cash and help out your neighbors. Have fun.
11-10-2004 08:57 PM
IamJen
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Originally Posted by MollyGoat View Post

Gee...I'm against animal testing and all that, but if nobody donated blood because of that, a whole lot of people would be dead..

^^what she said
11-10-2004 08:53 PM
bethann I donate blood (I won't sell blood, I think those companies aren't as safe and I have ethical issues with it) on a regular basis and have never had any health problems. I do suggest you bring food with you to eat afterward, because they often don't have vegan food available and I feel better if I eat afterwards.
11-10-2004 08:04 PM
GhostUser
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Originally Posted by kpickell View Post

make sure you not one of them homosexual vegans. those aren't allowed.



Neither is anyone who has or has had a piercing below the belt. Ooh, even moreso if you're GAY with a piercing below the belt!!!
11-13-2003 04:35 PM
majake
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Originally Posted by 1vegan View Post

iirc it is only America where blood donors get paid by the bloodbanks.

European blood banks do not, (and are not allowed to) pay blood donors.



blood donors are not paid in the US. People do get paid to donate plasma though.
11-13-2003 04:21 PM
Wolfahowl Could somebody just tell me if by giving blood I'm supporting animal testing? I'm in the US, if it matters.
11-13-2003 12:34 PM
Dalziel
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Originally Posted by veggiewriter View Post

I've never given plasma, but I give blood regularly and have never had a problem w/low iron or anything (as so many of my omni friends do). The only thing I hate about the process is lying about never having slept w/a man who's had relations w/another man since 1976 (or whatever the date is...), 'cause I have (an ex bf who'd done some experimenting in college) but I'm okay and want to donate. Is that evil of me? I honestly don't believe I'm a risky doner at all...



If you know for sure you are OK I don't see anything wrong in that
11-13-2003 12:01 PM
veggiewriter I've never given plasma, but I give blood regularly and have never had a problem w/low iron or anything (as so many of my omni friends do). The only thing I hate about the process is lying about never having slept w/a man who's had relations w/another man since 1976 (or whatever the date is...), 'cause I have (an ex bf who'd done some experimenting in college) but I'm okay and want to donate. Is that evil of me? I honestly don't believe I'm a risky doner at all...
11-13-2003 12:44 AM
1vegan
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Originally Posted by veganinohio View Post

What's up with Scotland? What blood born diseases can you get from those nasty Scots? I'm out of the running for giving blood for a while, having been to India and Africa too recently, but Scotland? That was an odd one to me.



BSE. When you've been in the UK in the years that they didn't check for BSE at the slaughterhouse, you could have got cjd (creutzfeld jakob decise, nickname "human bse")



Because there isn't a good test for cjd for blood donors, they do not accept these people as donor.



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Originally Posted by MollyGoat View Post

Blood prices? I thought people only got paid for plasma. I've never heard of someone selling their blood....



Anyway, sorry, but I don't understand the connection.





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Originally Posted by kristadb View Post

blood prices? what is everyone talking about?



In Canada, you donate your blood and go home. If you give a number of times (I think 50+), you get to choose where your blood goes (ie ER, babies, burns, etc).



iirc it is only America where blood donors get paid by the bloodbanks.

European blood banks do not, (and are not allowed to) pay blood donors.



If you are a regular donor, you can get a bumpersticker and after a number of times you get a tie pin or something like that. Very regular donors might get invited for a dinner evening once a year.



Blood prices.

I worked for a bloodbank. Even when the bloodbank takes your blood in or near the hospital, it is a separate institute.



A plastic bag for blood is about $25,- plus rent for the place, nurses, machines, freezers, radiation, tests

(we froze the blood and could keep it stored for two years)



Iirc a pint of whole blood was $75.- for customers. Customers = hospitals.



If the hospital has special wishes, the blood is extra processed and the selling price goes up.



Very special blood, like..um.birth cord blood for babies was very expensive.

Same goes for HLA matched blood for bone marrow operations.









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Originally Posted by kpickell View Post

make sure you not one of them homosexual vegans. those aren't allowed.



Maybe in America, not in Europe. (iirc) Gay people with a steady relationship can donate.

Straight people are asked if they had changing sexual contacts in the last x months.

Cause straight people who *uck around are as risky as anyone else.
11-13-2003 12:04 AM
kpickell make sure you not one of them homosexual vegans. those aren't allowed.
11-12-2003 11:50 PM
GhostUser blood prices? what is everyone talking about?



In Canada, you donate your blood and go home. If you give a number of times (I think 50+), you get to choose where your blood goes (ie ER, babies, burns, etc).



I'm not able to give blood. I am allowed to give plasma, but it's a bit of work and everytime I book and get the time, I end up getting a cold or flu and cannot go.
11-12-2003 01:17 PM
veganinohio I know this is different than selling plasma, but when I last visited a blood drive (to pick someone up, not donate), there was a sign that said if you've been to Scotland in the past seven years, then you can't donate blood. What's up with Scotland? What blood born diseases can you get from those nasty Scots? I'm out of the running for giving blood for a while, having been to India and Africa too recently, but Scotland? That was an odd one to me.
11-12-2003 11:53 AM
MollyGoat
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Originally Posted by 1vegan View Post

Dunno, but I remember that when the blood prices tripled the demand for blood went down. (quite a bit too)



Blood prices? I thought people only got paid for plasma. I've never heard of someone selling their blood....



Anyway, sorry, but I don't understand the connection.
11-12-2003 07:31 AM
1vegan
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Originally Posted by MollyGoat View Post

Gee...I'm against animal testing and all that, but if nobody donated blood because of that, a whole lot of people would be dead...



Dunno, but I remember that when the blood prices tripled the demand for blood went down. (quite a bit too)
11-11-2003 05:26 PM
veggrl Ironically, I cannot donate blood or plasma due to the mad cow thing. I lived on Europe for years, so I *might* be tainted. What a random load of crap.



Just ate American beef? Sure, we'll have your blood (no chance you ate mad cow). Been in the Eu? Doesnt mater you dont eat beef, or any other meat. Rules are rules.



The US military has always been a huge source of blood donations. With so many of us having served in the EU, the percentage of us allowed to give blood has been radiacally reduced. Please give blood/plasma if you can.



Vegan1, youre so right, tha animal testing is way wrong. But I dont think not giving blood is the way to fight that battle.
11-11-2003 05:09 PM
MollyGoat Gee...I'm against animal testing and all that, but if nobody donated blood because of that, a whole lot of people would be dead...



Donating blood makes me very ill so it's a moot point for me.
11-11-2003 04:53 PM
muppetcow Everywhere I've ever gone has a minimum weight of 110 pounds, so I've never been able to donate blood or plasma.
11-11-2003 04:37 PM
Wolfahowl
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Originally Posted by 1vegan View Post


1- your blood will be tested with testers with animal ingredients.

2- profits will be made by company's that heavilly use animal testing.



What if you just give blood? Will there still be "profits" going to such companies?
11-11-2003 04:14 PM
vegporn I know plenty of vegans who sell plasma with no problems. And the amount they take out is based on weight, but you should get paid the same as anyone. Beware that selling plasma a lot with give you track marks that will take years to go away.
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