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|10-20-2004 04:17 PM|
bin laden in China?
No, I have not been laid in China
|10-20-2004 01:23 PM|
I think it's a ruse.
When I saw Sadaam for the first time, he didn't look like he'd been in hiding. He looked like he'd been in prison...and probably tortured during his stay. When I saw him, my first thought was that he'd been captured months before, and the "miraculous capture" was all staged. I told my fiancee, "Just wait. Bush is going to miraculously capture bin Laden right before the election, too." I figured he probably had a cell right next to Sadaam's.
Now, lo and behold, they're talking about the well timed and imminent capture of Osama Bin Laden. The only part I didn't suspect was the China angle, but it makes sense. Why just capture bin Laden (greater popularity) when you can forge powerful International alliances (greater power)? My guess is, bin Laden is in a cell somewhere in Virginia being tortured by the CIA for information about terrorist activities in the Middle East; something the administration can use over the next few years to justify it's further expanse of government power. The Chinese are just playing along because they have alot to gain, economically, from alliance with the US, and we have alot to gain politically with their support (like two bullies on the block teaming up, rather than fighting each other).
Of course, it could just be the chronic....
|10-19-2004 02:24 PM|
|10-19-2004 01:45 PM|
Oh man is that gonna tick some folks off......Wooooooah...
I wouldn't be surprised by anything a politician would do. Wouldn't change my thoughts though that Bush is the antichrist..........
|10-19-2004 01:31 PM|
Yeah, but we make you guys fill the ballots out in crayon and then hang them on our refrigerators. "Ah, how cute, the little Canucks are trying to vote. "
|10-19-2004 11:26 AM|
Canadians get to vote in the US elections, too? Darn it! I didn't register
As for China, I hear it's a lovely country. Good for Bid Laden to see as much of the world before it destroys itself looking for him.
|10-19-2004 05:09 AM|
The best way to prevent an October Surprise is to get everybody watching for an October Surprise.
The right person can also have fun doing it and get publicity at the same time.
For example, a highly publicized web site with a gambling pool for which day the president will turn over Bin Laden
|10-18-2004 11:12 PM|
During the home stretch of the Northamerican elections....
Is Canada having elections again so soon?
|10-18-2004 10:40 PM|
|beforewisdom||I really hope this turns out to be an urban legend|
|10-18-2004 09:28 PM|
Bin Laden is in China
This confirms Gordon Thomas, a journalist with contacts in the most important intelligence services. The terrorist had reached an agreement with China, which now negotiates its surrender with Bush. It is his greatest electoral trick.
Translated from El Mundo
10/13/04 "El Mundo" -- During the home stretch of the Northamerican elections, Osama bin Laden could prove to be the ace in the sleeve of president Bush. As we speak, Washington is negotiating a highly secretive agreement with Beijing, the Chinese capital, for the eviction of bin Laden from his sanctuary in the turbulent Muslim provinces of China, in the Northwest of the Great Wall nation.
More than five million people, many of them fanatic followers of Osama, live in that region, which can be called one of the most volatile regions of Earth. Thousands of them work for the mafias who specialize in the trafficking of humans and drugs to the West. Last summer, Bin Laden sealed an agreement with the authorities in Beijing, in which he was granted asylum in return for his guarantees that the guerilla war of the Muslim Chinese against the Chinese nation would end.
Over the years, tens of thousands of troops of the Popular Liberation Armee had been sent to the region with the intent to squash the insurgents.
Since the arrival of the Saudi Osama Bin Laden, the region has been relatively quiet, and the Muslims who live there are allowed to continue their trafficking of humans and drugs.
However, Bin Laden could now see himself trapped in his refuge, if an extraordinary agreement between Beijing and Washington would come to pass, in which China would hand over to the United States the most wanted terrorist in the world.
The capture of Bin Laden would virtually guarantee the reelection of George Bush Jr., as it would confirm to the millions of undecided voters of the U.S. that the war against terrorism was judstified after Bin Laden had authorized the attacks of 9/11 against New York and Washington.
"A new administration Bush would present China as its great new ally in the war against terrorism. China would enjoy in Washington the status of a most favored nation with all of its facets. Contracts worth hundreds of millions of dollars would be approved by fast track. The history of human rights violations in China would be ignored," confirmed last week a high-level representative of the Pentagon. He added that only a small number of "members of very high rank" in the Bush administration knew about the plan to "seize Bin Laden in exchange for a special relationship with China." With almost certainty, among them would be the vice-president, Dick Cheney, and the defense secretary, Donald Rumsfeld.
Agreeing to speak under anonymity, the functionary offered details of the plan to capture Osama Bin Laden as a means to keep Bush in the White House. He explained that this is not the first time that an American administration has resorted to similar maneuvers during an electoral campaign.
Towards the end of the presidency of Jimmy Carter, a secret deal was signed between the then future president of the U.S., Ronald Reagan, and Iran, in which the American diplomats, who had been kidnapped in Teheran, the Capital of Iran, would be freed the very day that Ronald Reagan would be inaugurated to the White House.
According to Ari Ben-Menashe, the former national security advisor of the Israeli government of Yitzhak Shamir, " they paid an enormous sum of money to the Ayatollas of Iran." Ben-Menashe affirms that this deal formed a pivotal piece in the negotiations that later became known as Reagan's October surprise.
Theresa on the campaign trail
Theresa, the wife of the senator and democratic candidate, John Kerry, gave to understand that another October surprise could be imminent. Two weeks ago, she surprised the political advisors of her husband by declaring in public: "I wouldn't be surprised if, prior to the elections, president Bush were to capture Osama." Since then, Mrs. Kerry rejected to further comment on her explosive declaration. However, there are rumors in the intelligence community that both she and her husband had been advised that any further comments concerning an agreement that would include the capture of Bin Laden could comprimise the national security of the U.S.
Furthermore, also the Washington analyst, Al Santoli, the national security advisor and Californian Congressman, Dana Rohrabacher, and the editor of the respected bulletin China Monitor, affirmed that "an October surprise wouldn't surprise me in the least."
In his first confirmed sighting in many months, the refuge of Bin Laden has been pinpointed by an NSA satellite, one of many that the supersecret U.S. agency utilizes in their search for him. His hideout is located near a lake at the border between China and Pakistan.
At the other side of the Zaskar mountains, the white summits that majestically look out over Bin Laden's sanctuary, a detachment of special forces of the Pakistani and U.S. armies are awaiting orders to capture Bin Laden, and move him by plane to Pakistan.
Escorted by 50 guerillas
During the last six months, Bin Laden has been sighted several times in the mountains and open ranges of the Northwest. American intelligence agents in the region are of the opinion that the Saudi millionaire, accompanied by an escort of 50 guerilla mujaheddin, moved East towards Cachemira, and from there crossed into China.
The agents furthermore believe that, previously, Bin Laden held various meetings with high officials of Beijing. He convinced them that he would be capable of obtaining peace in their Muslim provinces. "We know about these meetings," confirmed Mansur Ahmed, police chief of Bandipoor, North of Cachemira. "However, they took place on Chinese territory."
Bin Laden is accompanied by Ayan al-Zawahiri, his primary advisor and personal physician (Bin Laden suffers from a serious renal ailment). Al-Zawahiri is a surgeon, educated in Cairo, accused of terrosrism in Egypt, and condemned to death for rebellion. After Bin Laden, he is the second most wanted terrorist world-wide.
White House sources reject to comment on this issue publicly. "If the negotiations should fail, this would not be the most suitable moment for the president to be seen directly involved in these negotiations," affirmed one source.
It is believed that the possibility for such a deal emerged early this year, after Donald Rumsfeld had met with a delegation of the Chinese government during a visit to the far East. Later, George Tenet, then director of the CIA, requested a viability study for an operation to capture Bin Laden. Tenet was informed that the only possibility would be if they could count on the cooperation of the Chinese.
"To what extent that collaboration will occur in the few weeks remaining until the elections, will depend to a good extent on the confidence that Bush can inspire in the Chinese that he will be able to live up to his promises," confirmed the functionary of the Pentagon.