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02-14-2015 09:57 AM
Ashwani Enjoy the bliss of being a vegetarian & don't care about what others say in this matter. I am a vegetarian by birth & I haven't ever faced any health problems because of this. Do Yog daily & you will lead a great life: http://www.divyayoga.com/miscellaneo...-training.html
02-14-2015 09:25 AM
Diesel Do some research on nutrition and inform them that they are wrong in saying you will starve.


That is just a misguided stereotype.
02-11-2015 02:11 PM
River
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I'm 60lbs overweight - I wish being vegan meant I would waste away!
Really though.


When I hear people say that being vegan means you'll waste away or won't eat enough calories, I always wonder how my ass got so big.
02-11-2015 01:46 PM
Siv I'm 60lbs overweight - I wish being vegan meant I would waste away!
02-10-2015 06:46 PM
Naturebound gjbz123,

I am sorry your family is not being supportive of you going vegan. My family was not too supportive in the beginning either. I have a long history of an eating disorder and it raised red flags for them, even though at that time I was in a period of recovery. I really tried to convince them of all the ethical, health, environmental, and philosophical arguments I could muster. The ONLY thing that worked was to stay true to my beliefs, values, and practices as a vegan, and to take care of myself and stay healthy. Eventually they started to come around when they saw that I was still healthy and doing well at six months and then a year and then two years...

I know it hurts when people who were close to you before do not support something you believe in. I had to eventually just be quiet about it for a while around my family and try to keep the peace. I went vegan as an adult though, and I imagine it must be difficult when you rely on your family for your food and so on. If you can help with extra chores around the house or with preparing your own meals, maybe your parents would be more willing to buy foods that you need in return. Another idea would be to find an adult mentor such as a teacher or neighbor who might support your wishes to go vegan. They might be able to help with ways to communicate with your family so they understand what this means to you and at least provide you with some basic inexpensive food items such as rices, beans, oats, fruits and vegetables.

Personally I would never tell a young teenager who wants to transition to vegan and who's family is adamantly against it that eating grass is the way to go. If veganism has alienated her from her family, I can only imagine what they might think seeing her munch on grass. As a parent I would be VERY concerned.
02-10-2015 12:08 PM
leedsveg Grass.Eater has provided absolutely no scientific evidence that humans eating common grass makes any kind of sense. As common grass is relatively indigestible for humans (google it) it follows that the outcome of continually following a diet which includes common grass will be an accumulating digestive/health problem.

A recommendation to the OP that they eat grass as part of their diet is exactly what the OP doesn't need to hear. It's not going to impress the OP's family either.
02-07-2015 09:56 PM
David3 Breatharianism (the practice of not eating food, and instead attempting to obtain nourishment from air, "ether", or sunlight) is dangerous, and is a sham. Please do not promote it in this forum.

No mainstream vegan organizations promotes grass as a protein source. If you believe that grass is a nutritious food for humans, please present us with objective nutrition data for grass, from a reputable source.
02-07-2015 08:53 AM
David3 Things will calm down in a while.

When I became vegan, my mom was upset because she thought that I was rejecting the food that she had lovingly prepared for me all those years. Your mother may feel the same way.

I've found that it doesn't do much good to argue with people. However, by being a healthy vegan, you will inspire other people to consider being vegan. You may not know that you've inspired them - they may pursue veganism quietly - but you'll have been the inspiration for them nevertheless. By not arguing with people, they will feel more comfortable coming to you for vegan support and advice.

It is important that you focus on being healthy on your new vegan diet. The biggest mistake that new vegans make is not eating enough calories. This mistake is very easy to make, because beans and grains are low in calories, compared even to "low fat" meats. I strongly recommend that you use an online calorie calculator, such as http://www.calorieking.com, to make sure that you're getting your 1800-2200 calories per day (or more, if you are physically active). If you have trouble getting enough calories, you can add small amounts of high-fat foods, such as nuts, nut butters, and seeds. Be careful with nuts and nut butters - a single cup of nuts contains at least 800 calories!

As you know, healthy vegan diets are based on:

* Beans (including lentils, peas, tofu, and soy foods)
* Whole grains and starchy vegetables (including whole grain pasta, rice, oatmeal, whole grain bread, whole grain tortillas, corn, potatoes, etc.)
* Vegetables (especially dark green/yellow vegetables, such as mustard greens, collard greens, carrots, and broccoli)
* Fruit (especially vitamin C rich fruits, such as citrus fruits, melons, and strawberries)


Here are some links to vegan nutrition websites:

The Vegan 4 Food Groups (from the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a vegan-specific health group): http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vsk...ur-food-groups

The USDA's tips for vegetarians and vegans: http://www.choosemyplate.gov/healthy...egetarian.html

Make sure that you get enough calories (can't resist saying it again). Welcome to Veggie Boards!
02-03-2015 12:35 PM
Go Vegan
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Okay so I told my best friend that I'm going vegan and she was no help at all here's what she said "But you're already so skinny you'll just starve" "Plants are alive too and you're killing them" Then I started to tell her the difference between animals and plants and she continued "They're still alive and need to eat and drink breath etc" I know i'm very skinny (about 20-30 pounds under weight but it's normal in my family) I guess she was just looking our for me like a true bff but It still really hurt me And lots of people aren't any help... I really care for the animals, and my health, because most people in my family when they are in their 70's or even younger get diabetes and stuff. I also feel SO bad for the animals and happens to them! How can I get support from my friends and family? Oh and how do I tell my family my mom is really against animal lovers and says she hates all animal lovers so what should I tell her?
Omnis huh? Same lame "arguments" year in year out...

Just because you are vegan doesn't mean you will automatically be thin...Vegan bodybuilders do exist and they are pretty heavy guys...You just need to eat good size portions with the correct amount of nutrients/ vitamins/ minerals...

As for the plants issue: they lack a central nervous system/ any kind of nervous system and so as far as modern science tells us they have no feelings/ emotions/ sentience...The amount of plants needed to feed "meat" animals is vast and so meat eaters actually are responsible for far more plant deaths than vegans...If everyone was vegan, less plants would need to be harvested...So theoretically even if modern neuroscience was completely wrong, being vegan would still be kinder to the plants...But it isn't completely wrong so don't worry about it...

You can get support from friends/ family by being gentle with your explanations at first - say things like "I care about animals" or "animals have feelings too" if asked why you are vegan. This is pretty clear and is not confrontational...

Why does your mom hate animal lovers? Has she had a bad experience with a slightly over zealous activist? Reassure her that you are still you, and that you haven't changed in any way except that now you are more aware of animal suffering and wish to do something about it - i.e. go vegan...

Oh and btw, vegans are less likely to succumb to diseases like coronary artery disease and diabetes mellitus, so that is an added bonus
02-03-2015 03:45 AM
TerriNC I'll be completely honest here. When my daughter was 16 years old, she told me that she wanted become a vegetarian, and I got a bit defensive. Looking back now, I think it was because I did all of the cooking and felt irritated that I would need to prepare different foods for her, and I didn't understand why. She stuck to her guns, with much respect towards me, and said she'd never really liked meat and felt better when she ate plants. She told me she wanted to do it for 3 months and see how she felt. That actually took a little pressure off me, for some reason. I guess because I felt I could handle anything if it was temporary. And she started cooking some too.

At the end of the 3 months, she said she felt better, she hadn't lost weight (she didn't need to), and I had learned to make some new dishes with her eager assistance in the kitchen. We were all comfortable with it by then. A year later she went vegan. And a few years later, her dad and I did too!

Hang in there! Be respectful and understanding toward your mom (and best friend). Maybe tell them you're going to try it for 3 months and see how your health is. That should help them with their concerns. Then stick to your decision and just do it. Who knows, if they see you feeling and looking well, maybe they'll jump onboard with you, like we did! Best of luck!
02-03-2015 12:55 AM
PandaGirl You have to choose the way of life that's right for you, at the end of the day. If you feel strongly about being vegan, then that's the right thing to do, and as others have said, follow your gut. Other people in your life will get used to it.

There are a lot of myths out there about vegetarian and vegan diets being bad for your health, but there's plenty of myth-busting literature out there too. Perhaps show your friend some of the research that's out there about well-planned vegan diets being nutritionally adequate and healthy, as long as they include the right foods. But then, in my humble opinion, that's true of all diets. Omnivorous diets should also be "well-planned" because you can be a very unhealthy omnivore if you eat too much of the wrong stuff and not enough of the right stuff. I had Vit D, B12, potassium and iron deficiencies for years as an omnivore, despite thinking my diet was pretty healthy - I just accepted it as part of my underlying health problems, but since being vegetarian again, my nutritional status is, in fact, much better.

http://www.nhs.uk/livewell/vegetaria...egandiets.aspx

I'm sure your friend is just worried about you being healthy - the very sage advice I've seen on these boards for younger vegans and veggies is to show 'em the science when it comes to doubters.

As for your mum, well, maybe she's confusing animal lovers with animal rights activists, who get a bad press because of sometimes doing illegal things, but also because they show people the truth, and people would really rather not think about it, so they get annoyed with the PETA people or the BUAV people on the stands in the mall because they just don't want to see this stuff. The same goes for social activists as well - I've done plenty of marching and demonstrating and campaigning in my time on some of the social issues going on in the UK and people will shout abuse at you, have a go, call you names - that's just the price of sticking your neck out for something in this world. Some people aren't going to like it. My dad also isn't a fan of "animal lovers" because he personally doesn't care much for animals - he doesn't like pets (dirty and hairy) so he won't come round my house because of the dog, and he just doesn't get people who are really into animals, whether as a job, keeping them at home, or whatever. So, we just don't really talk about the subject, we agree to differ. I think it's weird, but then he can't comprehend why I'd want a hairy, stinky dog in my home, or why I'd give my money to dog and farm animal rescue charities. So long as you can agree to disagree, and not be tempted to try and convert your friends and family, then you will eventually rub along. By all means, explain your feelings and reasoning, just don't be tempted to try and tell others they're wrong, because their hackles will go up (lessons learned from my younger vegetarian days!)
02-02-2015 10:43 PM
plantpoweredhippie
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Okay so I told my best friend that I'm going vegan and she was no help at all here's what she said "But you're already so skinny you'll just starve" "Plants are alive too and you're killing them" Then I started to tell her the difference between animals and plants and she continued "They're still alive and need to eat and drink breath etc" I know i'm very skinny (about 20-30 pounds under weight but it's normal in my family) I guess she was just looking our for me like a true bff but It still really hurt me And lots of people aren't any help... I really care for the animals, and my health, because most people in my family when they are in their 70's or even younger get diabetes and stuff. I also feel SO bad for the animals and happens to them! How can I get support from my friends and family? Oh and how do I tell my family my mom is really against animal lovers and says she hates all animal lovers so what should I tell her?
Regardless of what decisions you make in life - no matter what it is, you are ALWAYS going to have people judging & critiquing you. Follow your intuition and listen to your gut.

As for the insipid "killing plants" argument, here we go:

Plants are insentient, and unlike animals, they do not have a central nervous system, lungs, hearts, kidneys, intestines, blood, ears and eyes, etc. They do not defecate or urinate either. It has never been proven that plants can feel pain, as they lack the central nervous system and brain necessary for this to happen. A plant can respond to stimuli, for example by turning towards the light or closing over a fly, but that is not the same thing.

And, with regards to your Mother, I don't know what to say. Perhaps you could ask her to elaborate as to why she as any actual reason to dislike kind, caring and compassionate people?

Hope this helps.
02-02-2015 06:34 PM
Kiwibird08 Get used to this reaction, it's pretty much par for the course. Sometimes I'd feel you'd get more support from family and friends if you came out and said "I'm a serial killer" rather than a (dun dun dun) "I've gone vegan" I find it's best to live my life quietly and if the subject comes up "my body, my conscience, my choice, end of discussion".

As for weight, I struggled as a vegetarian to maintain a healthy weight for years. After going raw vegan, I actually gained a little weight. I'm still skinny, but feel awesome! When your body is nourished, it will balance out at the weight it wants to be. We all have different shapes and genetics, and there are people who are skinny by nature. A healthy diet won't change that.
02-02-2015 06:01 PM
gjbz123
Friends Don't Support And Say I'll Starve....

Okay so I told my best friend that I'm going vegan and she was no help at all here's what she said "But you're already so skinny you'll just starve" "Plants are alive too and you're killing them" Then I started to tell her the difference between animals and plants and she continued "They're still alive and need to eat and drink breath etc" I know i'm very skinny (about 20-30 pounds under weight but it's normal in my family) I guess she was just looking our for me like a true bff but It still really hurt me And lots of people aren't any help... I really care for the animals, and my health, because most people in my family when they are in their 70's or even younger get diabetes and stuff. I also feel SO bad for the animals and happens to them! How can I get support from my friends and family? Oh and how do I tell my family my mom is really against animal lovers and says she hates all animal lovers so what should I tell her?

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