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06-03-2013 10:50 PM
Abraham123

Veganism is a whole way of life thing. Diet plan is still a big part of it, but not the be all and end all, Vegetarians prevent ALL creature items and wastes, such as sweetie, made of wool, soft silk, set....

 

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05-20-2013 09:17 AM
Shauna_m
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Originally Posted by penny79 View Post

It could be referring to the same thing.  Some vegetarians are total vegetarians and don't buy leather, silk, wool, but don't label themselves as vegan.  Or it could be that someone eats dairy and eggs every day.  Just depends on the person. :)

 

For a long time I just called myself vegetarian even though most people would have labeled me vegan. I didn't outright eat eggs or dairy or wear leather or wool or anything, but I wouldn't fret over trace ingredients in cake at a birthday party, or in a veggie burger at a restaurant.

05-20-2013 09:08 AM
penny79

It could be referring to the same thing.  Some vegetarians are total vegetarians and don't buy leather, silk, wool, but don't label themselves as vegan.  Or it could be that someone eats dairy and eggs every day.  Just depends on the person. :)

05-19-2013 04:55 PM
La Grenouille
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Originally Posted by Tiger Lilly View Post


I'd call you a vegan and we all know how rigid I am about those sorts of things :P

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Though, in different languages....The distinction between vegan and vegetarian is....so confusing. Is there a Canadian French word for 'plant based diet' or is that just what végétalien means? 

Thanks for the support!

Végétalien means plant-based diet, but not necessarily vegan lifestyle. We would call a vegan lifestyler a “végétalien strict”. But the term véganis slowly making its way, so eventually we’ll have a distinction.
05-19-2013 04:49 PM
Tiger Lilly
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Originally Posted by La Grenouille View Post

In Canadian-French, there is no distinction between dietary veganism and lifestyle veganism. Both are «végétalien».

 

In France-French, there is a distinction. If you follow a vegan diet, you're a «végétalien». If you adopt the lifestyle, you are a «végan».

 

Now, 'Ickensoup, I just don't know what I am anymore... !

 

I don't eat animal products and by-products, and I try as much as possible to buy products that haven't been tested on animals. But I am not throwing my leather couch, bought before I decided to become vegan, although when it needs to be replaced, it won't be in leather.

 

So, finally, I suppose I am still in the transition phase? Whatever. I feel vegan. carrot.gif And I'm damn proud to be.


I'd call you a vegan and we all know how rigid I am about those sorts of things :P

 

I don't think having a leather couch puts you in the transition phase. It just means that's something you bought before you went vegan. I had cans of tuna in my house when I went vegetarian, didn't stop me being vegetarian. (And cans of tuna are a LOT easier to give away, than a leather couch! For the money factor alone).

Though, in different languages....The distinction between vegan and vegetarian is....so confusing. Is there a Canadian French word for 'plant based diet' or is that just what végétalien means?

 

05-17-2013 02:22 PM
Jennifer C
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Originally Posted by jambo101 View Post

As a newbee to vegetarianism it might seem like a juvenile question but if you dont know sooner or later ya gotta ask ..

Thanks

Welcome - in case I haven't said it before. Also, you might like this article - Types of Vegetarians and Vegans. It can be confusing, especially since people take it upon themselves to mix it up when it comes to definitions. 

05-17-2013 12:20 PM
'IckenNoodleSoup
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Originally Posted by La Grenouille View Post

In Canadian-French, there is no distinction between dietary veganism and lifestyle veganism. Both are «végétalien».

 

In France-French, there is a distinction. If you follow a vegan diet, you're a «végétalien». If you adopt the lifestyle, you are a «végan».

 

Now, 'Ickensoup, I just don't know what I am anymore... !

 

I don't eat animal products and by-products, and I try as much as possible to buy products that haven't been tested on animals. But I am not throwing my leather couch, bought before I decided to become vegan, although when it needs to be replaced, it won't be in leather.

 

So, finally, I suppose I am still in the transition phase? Whatever. I feel vegan. carrot.gif And I'm damn proud to be.

 

I'm in no place to tell other people what they are or are not. For me it's easier / lazier to identify as vegetarian, because vegan is a very big commitment.

 

Some of the vegans here don't understand why some of us vegetarians won't make that commitment. But many veggies simply prefer living a mainly 'vegan' lifestyle without being too rigid about it. 

 

It's a tricky call, and not mine to make on behalf of another. Personally speaking the mainstreaming of veg lifestyles is more important - for animals - than retaining their purity of meaning.

05-17-2013 12:05 PM
La Grenouille

In Canadian-French, there is no distinction between dietary veganism and lifestyle veganism. Both are «végétalien».

 

In France-French, there is a distinction. If you follow a vegan diet, you're a «végétalien». If you adopt the lifestyle, you are a «végan».

 

Now, 'Ickensoup, I just don't know what I am anymore... !

 

I don't eat animal products and by-products, and I try as much as possible to buy products that haven't been tested on animals. But I am not throwing my leather couch, bought before I decided to become vegan, although when it needs to be replaced, it won't be in leather.

 

So, finally, I suppose I am still in the transition phase? Whatever. I feel vegan. carrot.gif And I'm damn proud to be.

05-17-2013 08:54 AM
'IckenNoodleSoup

Yup. There is a quite big leap between being vegan and being vegetarian. 

 

Vegetarians simply abstain from eating meat. So no chicken, pork, beef, venison, duck, salmon, cod etc. but we do allow animal products like dairy and eggs.

Some vegetarians eat eggs but not dairy, often due to lactose intolerance.

Some vegetarians don't eat meat, eggs or dairy, they are called "strict vegetarians."

 

Veganism is a whole lifestyle thing. Diet is still a big part of it, but not the be all and end all.

Vegans avoid ALL animal products and byproducts, including honey, wool, silk, leather.

They also boycott products that have been tested on animals, and soaps and detergents made with animal fats. 

They avoid all forms of animal based *coercive* entertainment like circuses or zoos. Though they do support animal sanctuaries.

 

While many vegetarians also adopt some dietary and non-dietary aspects of veganism in their daily lives, they might not adopt them all. If you're going to be 'vegan', it's got to be the whole deal.

05-17-2013 07:27 AM
River Vegetarian can mean the person eats eggs (ovo), milk (lacto). Or they may wear leather, furs, etc.

Veganism is a lifestyle in which people avoid all animal ingredients, things tested on animals, and animal biproducts in so far as safe. Example, most people would use animal tested medicine if they need it to survive.
05-17-2013 07:05 AM
jambo101

As a newbee to vegetarianism it might seem like a juvenile question but if you dont know sooner or later ya gotta ask ..

Thanks


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