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Originally Posted by Pixie 

Sorry, I was completely joking about needing a list.

That's okay. If the community wants to know who is banned, it's a good idea, joke or not. Some people don't seem to be kidding and really want to know who is banned. We have a thread now though. https://www.veggieboards.com/t/138029/need-to-know-who-is-banned

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Originally Posted by Jennifer C 
A list seems extremely time consuming for whoever has to make it. You can look up IP bans here easily, but those are spam issues. I don't see a way to narrow it down to who is banned or not in the general user admin area. 
 

Sorry, I was completely joking about needing a list.

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Originally Posted by Pixie 

This discussion is making me more and more curious about who has been banned. We need a list.

 

A list seems extremely time consuming for whoever has to make it. You can look up IP bans here easily, but those are spam issues. I don't see a way to narrow it down to who is banned or not in the general user admin area. 

If people are this curious why not have a thread in this area (Community Assistance) where you can ask if a specific someone is banned? That would be easier than creating a list I think. Then if you run across someone who you're not sure will respond to you or not, you can just ask. In fact, I'll just start a thread now.  

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Originally Posted by Blobbenstein 
The only reason I can see for it not to be done is because Huddler don't want people to be able to see who is banned.....Maybe they thing having the word 'banned' under so many people's avatars makes the place seem less harmonious. I think for most people who look and post in forms, seeing that people are banned(like in a 5 year old thread) is common place; no need for alarm.
Whereas not being able to see who is banned creates an atmosphere of paranoia.. Who is banned; who isn't; can someone respond to a comment, or are the disappeared?
The more secrets there are, the less of an atmosphere of trust there is, and the less harmonious a place feels....surely that it obvious?

This discussion is making me more and more curious about who has been banned. We need a list.

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Originally Posted by Blobbenstein 

Whereas not being able to see who is banned creates an atmosphere of paranoia.. Who is banned; who isn't; can someone respond to a comment, or are the disappeared?
The more secrets there are, the less of an atmosphere of trust there is, and the less harmonious a place feels....surely that it obvious?

I'm not so sure it makes me paranoid when I'm at a forum and I can't see who is banned, but I agree that it's frustrating if you can't know who may (or may not respond) to you. Especially here because people seem to post on older threads here often. 

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Originally Posted by cornsail 

I wonder if the techs are aware of the fact that mods can see the word banned beneath banned members' names. 

That's a good point. I'll ask. 

Maybe we could just change someone's user name to reflect the ban. Though then I guess if someone's user name was "Banned" for whatever crazy reason that might be confusing. Hmmm. 

I wonder if the techs are aware of the fact that mods can see the word banned beneath banned members' names. 

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Originally Posted by cornsail 

As a mod I can see the word "BANNED" under someone's name if they're banned. I would have thought that it wouldn't be too difficult to grant non-mods the ability to see the same thing? 

It does seem like it would be an easy fix. Maybe there's some back end deal that makes it difficult if the change needs to happen across the board. I'm not tech, so I'm not sure. 

As a mod I can see the word "BANNED" under someone's name if they're banned. I would have thought that it wouldn't be too difficult to grant non-mods the ability to see the same thing? 

Hi everyone. 

I know some of you had questions about wanting to know who is banned, who is not, etc. I brought this up with Huddler's tech folks and did get a response. 

They noted that in order to know who is banned, there would need to be some sort of "banned badge made." Implementing it though, across the board would not be a quick change. According to the tech person I chatted with, a banned badge is, "Not something that's going to happen soon."  

Sorry there's not better news for some of you. 

On the plus side, I also have asked tech if we could get the "Like" buttons working and if we can set it up so that members may delete their own posts, among other things. I already heard back about these issues and it seems like Huddler thinks these problems are fixable sooner rather than later. I'm still working on getting all the info, but as soon as I know more about these specific issues (which should be soon) I'll post about each issue in the community assistance area. 

I'm sending a list of to-dos or rather "VB member wants" to Huddler tomorrow, i.e. get the like button working, deal with whatever is going on with tapatalk and so fourth. I will add this issue to the list.

P.S. I have given up my moderator duties, which is why I said "they" and can't really give much more in the way of an answer or a solution. Sorry. 

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Originally Posted by dormouse 

 

Well, they can't announce it publicly, nor can they contact CG directly because of the ban (unless they use the email he used to sign up). It is a problem with the software, which does not allow ban reasons to be shown to the member anymore, not with the moderators. And this software issue (as well as many others brought up by the membership) has not been addressed by the new admins.

What about my suggestions in post #44? Poppy's response (post #46) seemed to indicate that they (or at least one of them) would be used.

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Originally Posted by happyhippy 

 

It does seem strange that with two moderators having read and responded to this topic that still absolutely no reason has been given.

 

A very polite PM to Michael asking if he knew why has been totally ignored also.

Well, they can't announce it publicly, nor can they contact CG directly because of the ban (unless they use the email he used to sign up). It is a problem with the software, which does not allow ban reasons to be shown to the member anymore, not with the moderators. And this software issue (as well as many others brought up by the membership) has not been addressed by the new admins. 

Michael has nothing to do with anything anymore, so I don't know why you would ask him. 

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Originally Posted by cornsail 

 

:shrug:

 

I thought they were going to utilize my suggestions after Poppy said that my feedback was good.

It does seem strange that with two moderators having read and responded to this topic that still absolutely no reason has been given.

A very polite PM to Michael asking if he knew why has been totally ignored also.

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Originally Posted by happyhippy 

 

Then we have terrible modding policy here as absolutely no reason has ever been given.

 

Perhaps there is no reason that actualy can be given?

:shrug:

I thought they were going to utilize my suggestions after Poppy said that my feedback was good.

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Originally Posted by cornsail 

 

Even if the reasons seem obvious to the person doing the banning I think it's terrible modding policy to ban a long time member with no explanation.

Then we have terrible modding policy here as absolutely no reason has ever been given.

Perhaps there is no reason that actualy can be given?

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Originally Posted by happyhippy 

 

As no reason for the ban has been provided and if one is to assume it is in connection with the exchange on the 'Father of 30 wants help' topic..

 

then what totally surprises me is.. that some one whose posts are regularly met with a tirade of personal abuse and whose response to that abuse is good humour and not  retaliation should somehow be seen as a perpetrator as opposed to a victim?  

You obviously see things way different to me but since Clueless appears to be banned and so can't respond to anything I would post, I don't feel able, to be fair to him, to make any further comment.

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Originally Posted by leedsveg 

Well I reported a posting of his maybe 4 or 5 weeks ago. If others reported his posting(s) around that time, I wouldn't be totally surprised.

As no reason for the ban has been provided and if one is to assume it is in connection with the exchange on the 'Father of 30 wants help' topic..

then what totally surprises me is.. that some one whose posts are regularly met with a tirade of personal abuse and whose response to that abuse is good humour and not  retaliation should somehow be seen as a perpetrator as opposed to a victim?  

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Originally Posted by cornsail 

 

But did he make any of those comments recently before his ban? I also think it'd be strange to ban someone for something they did months beforehand.

Well I reported a posting of his maybe 4 or 5 weeks ago. If others reported his posting(s) around that time, I wouldn't be totally surprised.

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Originally Posted by Poppy 


It isn't policy. This new system has been full of surprises, some of them not so good.

Oh right.

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Originally Posted by cornsail 

 

But did he make any of those comments recently before his ban?

I don't know.

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Originally Posted by Poppy 


It isn't policy. This new system has been full of surprises, some of them not so good.

Oh yeah, I missed your earlier post in the thread. Sorry.

I wonder if something could be improvised for people who were accidentally banned without explanation like unbanning them, sending them a PM and then giving them a limited period of time to read the PM before banning them again. Or in CG's case I'm sure you could just get his email address from HH.

But did he make any of those comments recently before his ban? I also think it'd be strange to ban someone for something they did months beforehand.

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Originally Posted by cornsail 

If you think it's obvious why not say why you think he was? I can think of reasons people may have wanted to ban him for things he's said months ago, but if there was a recent controversy I missed it.

 

Even if the reasons seem obvious to the person doing the banning I think it's terrible modding policy to ban a long time member with no explanation.

I don't understand why he wasn't banned a lot sooner as a lot of his comments made the women on here feel uncomfortable and it is supposed to be a family-friendly forum but I agree with you that it's a strange policy not to send the person a message with the reason for the ban.

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Originally Posted by Pixie 

Do you really not know why he would have been banned?

If you think it's obvious why not say why you think he was? I can think of reasons people may have wanted to ban him for things he's said months ago, but if there was a recent controversy I missed it.

Even if the reasons seem obvious to the person doing the banning I think it's terrible modding policy to ban a long time member with no explanation.