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06-29-2010 10:04 PM
sara.q.platypus
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Originally Posted by silva' date='28 June 2010 - 05:32 AM' timestamp='1277724723' post='2665693 View Post


I just happened on this info somewhere, and it also referenced the generics being made by Arm & Hammer. I even use baking soda on my hair, and now to brush my teeth with (finding Crest is P&G!). Google "arm and hammer animal testing".



Here's a good link to the big companies-

http://www.caringconsumer.com/pdfs/companiesDoTest.pdf



Of course baking soda itself is good- I can't understand how a product that is so simple, and so old, would be tested on animals- but appartently it is, along with the detergents I used to buy.



Bob's Red Mill

Dr. Bronners soap

Charlies Soap Powder

Some products that rely on fair trade, simple organic ingrediants, and no animal testing.



Please add others you may know of. Charlies I happened on Amazon.



Ah, okay. I couldn't figure out how the heck you would make baking soda out of an animal, lol. I hadn't thought about the poor beasties being tested and tormented being in any way related to plain old baking soda.
06-28-2010 11:31 AM
silva Thanks Semi. I'm not sure what led me on this search other than a bombardment of animal testing info. I still boycott Arm & Hammer. Appartently they continue to do animal testing on products that don't legally require it.

Here's another link to companies that continue unfounded testing:



http://www.gan.ca/lifestyle/animal+t.../index.en.html





The first link was promoting Bobs, although not by Bobs. I'll continue to purchase my baking soda from Bob's Red Mill.
06-28-2010 11:14 AM
Semicharmed
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Originally Posted by silva' date='28 June 2010 - 07:32 AM' timestamp='1277724723' post='2665693 View Post

Of course baking soda itself is good- I can't understand how a product that is so simple, and so old, would be tested on animals- but appartently it is, along with the detergents I used to buy.



It's not, actually.



I don't know where people are getting their information about this. Church & Dwight (who make Arm & Hammer brand) doesn't test products on animals that are already deemed safe for humans. Since their baking soda has been known to be safe for humans and remains unchanged since the 1800's, it isn't tested on animals. However, Church & Dwight (who own Arm & Hammer) itself DOES test on animals. Their company policy is to view animal testing as a last resort, and do it only insofar as they need to comply with government standards. They make every effort to use products already deemed safe for human consumption so as not to necessitate animal testing.



So, no, the baking soda is not tested on animals. However, yes, the company itself does participate in animal testing.
06-28-2010 10:58 AM
Photojess this was (I think) the original article recommending Bob's Red Mills Baking soda. This was a fascinating (and sickening) read on animal cruelty, and even using baking soda to do so....http://tangergreen.com/cruelty-free-...bobs-red-mill/
06-28-2010 05:32 AM
silva
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Originally Posted by sara.q.platypus' date='27 June 2010 - 09:17 PM' timestamp='1277687850' post='2665535 View Post


Omg- is baking soda really not cruelty free already?!?!? I am finding out about so many "hidden" things that aren't vegan... arg. What/ how is b soda not "good"?



Thanks for the list- awesome!

I just happened on this info somewhere, and it also referenced the generics being made by Arm & Hammer. I even use baking soda on my hair, and now to brush my teeth with (finding Crest is P&G!). Google "arm and hammer animal testing".



Here's a good link to the big companies-

http://www.caringconsumer.com/pdfs/companiesDoTest.pdf



Of course baking soda itself is good- I can't understand how a product that is so simple, and so old, would be tested on animals- but appartently it is, along with the detergents I used to buy.



Bob's Red Mill

Dr. Bronners soap

Charlies Soap Powder

Some products that rely on fair trade, simple organic ingrediants, and no animal testing.



Please add others you may know of. Charlies I happened on Amazon.
06-27-2010 07:17 PM
sara.q.platypus Omg- is baking soda really not cruelty free already?!?!? I am finding out about so many "hidden" things that aren't vegan... arg. What/ how is b soda not "good"?



Thanks for the list- awesome!
06-27-2010 05:14 PM
silva I visited Bobs Red Mill webpage looking for cruelty free baking soda, and found their PDF page of egg and milk subsitution. It's printable, seems really complete, and I posted it on inside my cabinet door! Here's the link--



http://www.bobsredmill.com/docs/pdf/egg.pdf

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