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11-08-2005 07:50 PM
GhostUser
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Originally Posted by crystalteacup View Post

Don't hate me, but....



I would get checked for this, mental health wise. I was sleeping 2-3 hours a night, sometimes not sleeping at all. But I felt great and energetic. I didn't need to eat, either.



I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder after 2 weeks of this. It may not be in your case, but if you're 10-30, mental health problems show themselves during this period. You may have something that be controlled by exercise, or you may have something that may require medication (Don't hate me, all you anti-medication people, I really need my Lithium)



I understand. I am on meds for anxiety. I know this is part of it. Been checked out many times. That is where the Benzo's kick in.



When I run, I sleep like a baby. Run, Denise, run!!! lol
11-08-2005 07:15 PM
bigdufstuff
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Originally Posted by crystalteacup View Post

Don't hate me, but....



I would get checked for this, mental health wise. I was sleeping 2-3 hours a night, sometimes not sleeping at all. But I felt great and energetic. I didn't need to eat, either.



I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder after 2 weeks of this. It may not be in your case, but if you're 10-30, mental health problems show themselves during this period. You may have something that be controlled by exercise, or you may have something that may require medication (Don't hate me, all you anti-medication people, I really need my Lithium)



Well I still get about 5 hours of sleep and eat at least 3 times a day. If it gets worse I will keep this in mind.
11-08-2005 07:02 PM
crystalteacup Don't hate me, but....



I would get checked for this, mental health wise. I was sleeping 2-3 hours a night, sometimes not sleeping at all. But I felt great and energetic. I didn't need to eat, either.



I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder after 2 weeks of this. It may not be in your case, but if you're 10-30, mental health problems show themselves during this period. You may have something that be controlled by exercise, or you may have something that may require medication (Don't hate me, all you anti-medication people, I really need my Lithium)
11-08-2005 06:38 PM
GhostUser
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Originally Posted by bigdufstuff View Post

you can get it at many health food stores and grocery stores. Just about any place that sells vits.



I know, it was just a joke between me and ebola. But I have never taken this.
11-08-2005 06:32 PM
bigdufstuff
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Originally Posted by goettling View Post

Remember our deal? We keep on exchanging our drugs, so you better give me this one also!



you can get it at many health food stores and grocery stores. Just about any place that sells vits.
11-08-2005 06:26 PM
GhostUser
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Originally Posted by Gnome Chomsky View Post

>>I don't like the idea that my body will expect a hormone at night to be able to sleep. This obviously isn't something wrong with me physically , as it is really recent. So I would rather solve the stress problem in a way that works beter.>>



Well, usually people don't habituate to melatonin in this way. On the other hand, melatonin is only really effective in resetting circadian rhythms, not solving problems related to stress...



ebola



Remember our deal? We keep on exchanging our drugs, so you better give me this one also!
11-08-2005 06:16 PM
Gnome Chomsky >>I don't like the idea that my body will expect a hormone at night to be able to sleep. This obviously isn't something wrong with me physically , as it is really recent. So I would rather solve the stress problem in a way that works beter.>>



Well, usually people don't habituate to melatonin in this way. On the other hand, melatonin is only really effective in resetting circadian rhythms, not solving problems related to stress...



ebola
11-08-2005 06:05 PM
GhostUser
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Originally Posted by bigdufstuff View Post

haha, makes sense, you get so tired from the night before that you have no problems falling asleep the next day.



I actually feel like I want to nap right now, but am holding it off so that I will be tired at my real bed time.



Exactly, lol. I am so darn tired also. If I go to bed now, I will be wide awake at 2:00 am. I am saving my sleep till hubby gets home. Then we have to watch House, and then zzzzzzzz
11-08-2005 05:52 PM
bigdufstuff haha, makes sense, you get so tired from the night before that you have no problems falling asleep the next day.



I actually feel like I want to nap right now, but am holding it off so that I will be tired at my real bed time.
11-08-2005 05:50 PM
GhostUser
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Originally Posted by bigdufstuff View Post

Ha! well I am 3 times zones away from my lover



I am so sorry. I read that post that you posted. But if it makes you feel any better, it does not always help me.



Last night, I was up the latest that I have been in a long time. I hate it, because today, I am so tired. I think I will sleep well tonight.



It is not every night for me, just every other. lol
11-08-2005 05:46 PM
bigdufstuff
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Originally Posted by goettling View Post

You are probally right. I am sure I heard it from them, or read it somewhere.



I have never tried any of these before. My husband says the best way to get over this is sex before bed.



Ha! well I am 3 times zones away from my lover
11-08-2005 05:43 PM
GhostUser
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Originally Posted by Diana View Post

Goettling: All plants can be bad if taken in excess. Take opium for example...

(I would suspect that any study that says St. John Wort's is bad is probably paid for by the pharmaceutical industry.)



It seems that St. John's Wort works even on serotonin levels when taken regularly.



There are also plant extracts and plant extracts. What I mean is that not all producers of phytotherapy are good. You need to find good quality stuff and not rubbish stuff. St. John's Wort grown with pesticides alongside a highway (motorway) will not be as good as that grown with love in an organic fashion in the middle of some beautiful undamaged countryside.



You are probally right. I am sure I heard it from them, or read it somewhere.



I have never tried any of these before. My husband says the best way to get over this is sex before bed.
11-08-2005 10:44 AM
bigdufstuff
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Originally Posted by Gnome Chomsky View Post

just out of curiousity, why are you against melatonin?



ebola





I don't like the idea that my body will expect a hormone at night to be able to sleep. This obviously isn't something wrong with me physically , as it is really recent. So I would rather solve the stress problem in a way that works beter.
11-08-2005 10:25 AM
kentauros I would say to use valerian or kava kava, both in tincture or tea form. Tinctures will be bitter so you'll have to sweeten up the tea or water you put them in. Both are wonderful at relaxing the body; relaxation of the mind will follow, in my experience.



Oh, and isn't a lack of dreaming something that helps contribute to insomnia? If so, kava kava will help in this regard as you end up with "epic-length" dreams if you take it before bed. I have also found that I tend to sleep longer than normal when I have taken kava kava. Valerian I use primarily as a muscle relaxant but that seems to help a lot for countering either insomnia or getting back to a 'normal' sleep cycle, i.e., sleeping during the night instead of the daytime



Oh yeah, cats love valerian even moreso than catnip. Just put a little in some tea and that in a saucer and they'll go nuts for it
11-08-2005 10:06 AM
Gnome Chomsky just out of curiousity, why are you against melatonin?



ebola
11-08-2005 09:50 AM
bigdufstuff I did stop exercising recently. I will try to start running again and I will give the one hour earlier idea a shot.
11-08-2005 06:13 AM
sophia_cat i have had insomnia bouts for several months at a time, Ive tried everything. Limiting coffee, drugs, waking up earlier, etc. unfortunately wont do anything. Its most likely caused by stress and you cant cure a psychological ailment with physical behavior modifications. The problem is still there.

Speaking from experience, rigorous exercise and keeping in touch with good friends seems to help with alleviating insomnia.



Its a bad problem to have - stay away from sleeping pills, they cover up the problem and it eventually manifests itself in other ways.



Best of luck with this -
11-08-2005 05:57 AM
Diana Goettling: All plants can be bad if taken in excess. Take opium for example...

(I would suspect that any study that says St. John Wort's is bad is probably paid for by the pharmaceutical industry.)



It seems that St. John's Wort works even on serotonin levels when taken regularly.



There are also plant extracts and plant extracts. What I mean is that not all producers of phytotherapy are good. You need to find good quality stuff and not rubbish stuff. St. John's Wort grown with pesticides alongside a highway (motorway) will not be as good as that grown with love in an organic fashion in the middle of some beautiful undamaged countryside.
11-08-2005 05:10 AM
GhostUser
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Originally Posted by Diana View Post

That's where the St. John's Wort and Lemon Balm come in helpful. They increase the chemicals in the brain that one needs to become destressed. Phytotherapy is an amazing thing.



His intelligence (brain) tells him he's going to bed too late. He should listen to that message. If we ignore messages from our body, we've only got ourselves to blame.



I always heard that St. John's Wort can be bad though.
11-08-2005 04:39 AM
Diana That's where the St. John's Wort and Lemon Balm come in helpful. They increase the chemicals in the brain that one needs to become destressed. Phytotherapy is an amazing thing.



His intelligence (brain) tells him he's going to bed too late. He should listen to that message. If we ignore messages from our body, we've only got ourselves to blame.
11-08-2005 04:27 AM
GhostUser that still does not help with people that deal with this. It is all in the brain.



What is weird is that I am so relaxed in the day and have a hard time doing the shut eye at night. I think I am just a night person.
11-08-2005 04:21 AM
Diana If you are staying up too late, that is probably the problem. You say you can't help it. I suppose that is because you are studying.



But you are not respecting your internal biological clock.



Go to bed an hour earlier and put on your alarm clock one hour earlier in the morning. The hour you spend studying in the evening, you will use to study in the morning.



You'll study better that way too.



Buy some Lemon Balm and St. John Worts tablets for the stress. Take one in the morning and one in the evening.
11-08-2005 03:31 AM
GhostUser
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Originally Posted by bigdufstuff View Post

Recently I have been having trouble sleeping. About one to two months ago I could fall asleep in 5 minutes. Now it is taking 1+ hours to fall asleep. I am staying up too late and I can't help it. I believe it is stress related since I am in the middle of the quarter for my first year as a grad student. I can't say I "feel" overly stressed but I know the pressure is there. I had the same situation in undergrad. I would sleep fine during breaks, but stay up too late while school was in.



Any ideas how to help myself get to bed earlier? I stopped drinking coffee and I don't eat any sugar. I don't know what else to do. It isn't too serious right now, but I want to stop it before it gets there.



I do not want to take sleeping medication or melatonin. What do you think?



I posted this thread not to long ago. You can look it up. I feel for ya and all. I steel deal with it. Sorry, I am in the same boat as you are.
11-08-2005 02:11 AM
bigdufstuff Recently I have been having trouble sleeping. About one to two months ago I could fall asleep in 5 minutes. Now it is taking 1+ hours to fall asleep. I am staying up too late and I can't help it. I believe it is stress related since I am in the middle of the quarter for my first year as a grad student. I can't say I "feel" overly stressed but I know the pressure is there. I had the same situation in undergrad. I would sleep fine during breaks, but stay up too late while school was in.



Any ideas how to help myself get to bed earlier? I stopped drinking coffee and I don't eat any sugar. I don't know what else to do. It isn't too serious right now, but I want to stop it before it gets there.



I do not want to take sleeping medication or melatonin. What do you think?

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