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#1 Old 10-20-2007, 08:38 PM
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http://www.wftv.com/news/14289861/detail.html



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It's the first trial of its kind. A man is facing a judge and jury for violating Orlando's ban on feeding the homeless. Eric Montanez, 22, was caught feeding a group in Lake Eola Park earlier this year. The prosecution told Eyewitness News their case rests on video taken of Montanez feeding the homeless, breaking Orlando's feeding ban.

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He was acquitted. Thank goodness. I found this whole thing quite appalling.

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Las Vegas passed a ban on feeding the homeless in parks last year. Last I heard Food Not Bombs was challenging it in court.
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I found this whole thing quite appalling.



Depends on what he was feeding them.
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Why is it illegal to feed the homeless? What harm could it possibly do?
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I read about this when it first happened. Really a disgusting day in America.



Vegmedic, the homeless were fed rice, stew, salad, and bread pudding according to the Orlando Sentinel. The article is offline now, but it mentioned that the police even took "a vile of stew as evidence".
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"The law itself should be illegal. Feeding people should not be criminalized. Being poor should not be criminalized,"

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Eh? Why would it be illegal to give food to a homeless person? They're not plague carrying pigeons or anything. Surely there has to be more to it than that.

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The argument made is that feeding the homeless outside of a shelter situation somehow prevents them from getting the help they need. In reality, of course, the homeless are bad for business and cities would like them to move elsewhere.
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There's always more to a story when you only get one side.



http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

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ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - City officials have banned charitable groups from feeding homeless people in parks downtown, arguing that transients who gather for weekly meals create safety and sanitary problems for businesses.



The measure, approved Monday, prevents serving large groups in parks and other public property within two miles of City Hall without a permit. The American Civil Liberties Union vowed to sue, saying it's a superficial fix that ignores the city's homeless problem.

City commissioner Patty Sheehan pushed for the ordinance after complaints from business owners and residents that homeless people were causing problems at a downtown park popular with joggers and dog walkers.



In the article troub posted, the group intentionally violated the ordinance. It wasn't like a single person gave a homeless guy a burrito. This group demonstrated intent.

Why don't they put their efforts toward opening a shelter instead?
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The argument made is that feeding the homeless outside of a shelter situation somehow prevents them from getting the help they need. In reality, of course, the homeless are bad for business and cities would like them to move elsewhere.



Have you lived in an area with a high homeless population? In Portland, there are a LOT of homeless people. You can't walk around downtown without getting asked for money. most of the time a simple "no" sufficed. There were a couple of times I was followed and I felt threatened.



If the city was getting complaints from joggers & dog walkers that they were being harassed, the city should do something. Unfortunately, the problem is complex and Orlando is going about it entirely the wrong way. I'd rather see more state $ go into funding mental health & addiction programs and build shelters.
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Could they not have set up one of their soup kitchens in a park 2 miles away? I personally don't like the sound of the ban but it does strike me as a reasonable compromise.

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Could they not have set up one of their soup kitchens in a park 2 miles away? I personally don't like the sound of the ban but it does strike me as a reasonable compromise.



Well that wouldn't make it into the news now, would it?
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Hmmm...... so they are doing it to raise awareness of the issue? Fair enough I guess. Media attention for your cause can be a very useful thing. I really tend to agree with you - simply banning the distribution of food to the hungry in certain parts of the city is just sticking a bandaid on a gaping head wound.

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Have you lived in an area with a high homeless population? In Portland, there are a LOT of homeless people. You can't walk around downtown without getting asked for money. most of the time a simple "no" sufficed. There were a couple of times I was followed and I felt threatened.



If the city was getting complaints from joggers & dog walkers that they were being harassed, the city should do something. Unfortunately, the problem is complex and Orlando is going about it entirely the wrong way. I'd rather see more state $ go into funding mental health & addiction programs and build shelters.



Yes I have. It's a really tough problem but dealing with the problem by requiring permits to serve them food is over the top.



Bad karma for Orlando if you ask me.
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Hopefully it was a temporary measure set up to increase public safety and well-being in the parks while they work on a long-term solution, but I have my doubts.
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Hopefully it was a temporary measure set up to increase public safety and well-being in the parks while they work on a long-term solution, but I have my doubts.



As a Floridian, I can assure you that no public official in this state is that intelligent.



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