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#1 Old 02-26-2015, 05:35 AM
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How do you know who to give money to?

I've been pretty fortunate, of late, to have a lot of work thrown my way, and as such I'm finally in a position where I could give semi-regularly to an organisation/group.

The problem is,I'm not entirely sure how to sort the wheat from the chaff as it were.... I don't want to support a group that doesn't align with what I believe. But I can't go and visit every sanctuary.

How does everyone else decide how to spend their money when it comes to things like this?

(And any Aussie suggestions for groups would be great!)
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#3 Old 02-26-2015, 10:46 AM
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When I'm fit I give to RSPCA and to battersea cats and dogs home, have given to PETA and the local sanctuary too

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When I'm fit I give to RSPCA and to battersea cats and dogs home, have given to PETA and the local sanctuary too
I was thinking of giving to something like an animal rescue group like the Battersea cats and dogs home. (I checked out their website! SO many adorable faces!)

Unfortunately, the RSPCA here is kind of crap. They have "RSPCA approved" farms that are just dreadful and they never seem to DO anything, they always investigate after someone like Animals Australia or Animal Liberation has already found the solid proof that bad things are happening. I dunno, they seem to drag their feet a lot.

Were you able to visit your local sanctuary? There's one that's probably a few hours away from me, but they seem lovely. I don't know if they take donations or not, but I'd like to actually go there and see what they do.
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What cause really speaks to you personally? Look into non profit organizations that work for that cause. I think all vegetarians or vegans have a species they really feel for, so perhaps do some soul searching on which creature humanity at large abuses and find a group that helps them to donate to.

I personally have a special place in my heart for homeless parrots, KNOW first hand how expensive they are to care for and how few up for adoption (often surrendered/abandoned with severe behavioral issues, medical issues, self mutilation issues ext...) find forever homes right away. Not many people want them anymore after they become sexually mature and/or never realized the cost of specialized diets, specialist vet care, all the behaviors that aren't conducive to most homes ect.... before they got them, so tens of thousands languish in shelters. And since they are birds, no one cares about them like they do dogs and cats, so avian shelters get far less help than dog/cat shelters do. Since I cannot personally take on more than the one I have, I like knowing that donating special food or toys makes it easier for the people who can provide them housing until they find a forever family and goes directly to the birds who need it
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I was thinking of giving to something like an animal rescue group like the Battersea cats and dogs home. (I checked out their website! SO many adorable faces!)

Unfortunately, the RSPCA here is kind of crap. They have "RSPCA approved" farms that are just dreadful and they never seem to DO anything, they always investigate after someone like Animals Australia or Animal Liberation has already found the solid proof that bad things are happening. I dunno, they seem to drag their feet a lot.

Were you able to visit your local sanctuary? There's one that's probably a few hours away from me, but they seem lovely. I don't know if they take donations or not, but I'd like to actually go there and see what they do.
Never heard anything bad about our RSPCA, Battersea c and d home are desperate and often send people out to go around the houses asking for donations. No I personally never visited the local sanctuary, but I gave a vegan friend who has. They are very good and rescue anything from companion animals to farm animals to wildlife.
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I hope this isn't off-topic, but remember, people, especially kids, are neglected and abused too. Before I retired, and was making money, I spent many years sponsoring kids in diverse countries, like Mexico, Columbia, Bolivia, India, and the Philippines. Two reputable agencies are Children International and ChildFund. Depending on the agency you use, you can sponsor one child for about $20 per month, which gives them food, shelter, clothing, education, and medical attention. This is usually done on a community-wide basis, along with other sponsors, so the effect can be cumulative and very positive. We were able to raise up an entire village in Mexico to the point it no longer needed sponsorship at all. They became self-sufficient. You also get to exchange letters and gifts with your sponsored kid, so it can be a very personal experience. I think it's a shame our governments ignore this important work, and leave it to individuals to pitch in.

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I agree with Capstan! I have given to Vegan Outreach and Farm Sanctuary (from Watkins Glen) and also participated and raised money doing a Farm Sanctuary walk for farm animals event, but I have also given to other organizations too, such as NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) and my local Goodwill organization.

You can always contact an organization and ask questions about where their money goes and what their goals are etc. Most nonprofit organizations are not out to make money for profit so hopefully they would be more likely to be honest.
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It's helpful too to contact an organization to see if an annual financial report is available. A good organization will make this public. You can then see what percentage of your donation actually reaches its goal. IMO, 10 to 15% for 'overhead' is acceptable, but no more than that. At least 85% of its funds should be getting to the actual work.
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I hope this isn't off-topic, but remember, people, especially kids, are neglected and abused too. Before I retired, and was making money, I spent many years sponsoring kids in diverse countries, like Mexico, Columbia, Bolivia, India, and the Philippines. Two reputable agencies are Children International and ChildFund. Depending on the agency you use, you can sponsor one child for about $20 per month, which gives them food, shelter, clothing, education, and medical attention. This is usually done on a community-wide basis, along with other sponsors, so the effect can be cumulative and very positive. We were able to raise up an entire village in Mexico to the point it no longer needed sponsorship at all. They became self-sufficient. You also get to exchange letters and gifts with your sponsored kid, so it can be a very personal experience. I think it's a shame our governments ignore this important work, and leave it to individuals to pitch in.
I don't think it's off topic at all!

I'm only just 'getting' what 'intersectional' means.... But I'm completely in support of all kinds of social justice movements, especially when it comes to charity.

I hadn't even thought of human charities. Most are Christian, which I have no problem with, but as a Pagan I don't see why I should fund the missionary work of some organisations. I've given to one or two, but stopped when they started putting pictures of celebrities with baby animals on the screen saying "LOOK, WE CAN SEND THEM A BABY GOAT!" like the goat is a pet the kids get for Christmas or something. -.-

Anyway, back to your point, that's incredibly valid. Thank you!
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The best thing to do is give a monthly donation. If most did that, they would have a steady income and becomes easier to focus on real work rather than the marketing.
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I've been pretty fortunate, of late, to have a lot of work thrown my way, and as such I'm finally in a position where I could give semi-regularly to an organisation/group.

The problem is,I'm not entirely sure how to sort the wheat from the chaff as it were.... I don't want to support a group that doesn't align with what I believe. But I can't go and visit every sanctuary.

How does everyone else decide how to spend their money when it comes to things like this?

(And any Aussie suggestions for groups would be great!)

Unless you are a huge part of an AR organization, volunteer, have hands-on experience in the group and know for a fact how money is being spent, I would suggest not giving money to anyone, but instead, be your own AR organization.

I'm my own group, and keep the extra money I make and give to needy animals directly. Help pay for an animal vet bills. Buy AR books for people who want the book but can't afford it. Buy animal supplies/food for people you know who are going through a rough time financially and having a hard time taking care of their companion animal.

Be your own animal rights organization.
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Unless you are a huge part of an AR organization, volunteer, have hands-on experience in the group and know for a fact how money is being spent, I would suggest not giving money to anyone, but instead, be your own AR organization.


not to say you are totally wrong, but not everybody has the time or the motivation to start their own organization. Giving money is better than doing nothing because you can't do it yourself.
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not to say you are totally wrong, but not everybody has the time or the motivation to start their own organization. Giving money is better than doing nothing because you can't do it yourself.
You don't have to spend a lot of time. Did you read all of my post? Helping someone to pay their vet bills for instance isn't taking a lot of time out of your life, and there's not much motivation involved.

When I say "organization" I meant doing what I said in my examples. Sure, it's not an organization in the truest sense of the word, but organizations do that. They help others. They are philanthropists. Anyone can do the same thing.

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You don't have to spend a lot of time. Did you read all of my post? Helping someone to pay their vet bills for instance isn't taking a lot of time out of your life, and there's not much motivation involved.

When I say "organization" I meant doing what I said in my examples. Sure, it's not an organization in the truest sense of the word, but organizations do that. They help others. They are philanthropists. Anyone can do the same thing.

Aren't you doing the same thing by giving money to a charity? I would assume more so (if it's a good charity), because they are far more organized than a individual, they know the procedures, they have dedicated employees etc.
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I would assume more so (if it's a good charity), because they are far more organized than a individual, they know the procedures, they have dedicated employees etc.
Both big & small organizations have their own advantages and disadvantages when it comes to effective distribution, having examined documents of financial nature in departments of corporate social responsibility, I've to say the small ones have more advantages when it comes to directly helping a cause.

The problem with bigger organizations working in the not-for-profit sector is that while they may not retain profits, much of the money would go towards infrastructure costs, rent, marketing & advertising & salaries. No doubt that organizations like PETA, UNICEF & WWF create awareness & make a difference but when it comes to directly helping almost 60-70% of the costs would go towards travel, salaries, website maintenance & rent. They create macro-level change but with lesser effect. Small not-for-profit organizations (3-10 people) have smaller income but use it wisely to help a small radius around their presence, maybe a district or at best a city.. these places use your money far more effectively and you can easily keep track of what they do and know for sure that nearly 90-95% of the money is utilized to effect change. Likewise if one does it directly (which would be a little harder as it requires lot more searching) one can be sure that 100% of the money is going to a cause which one is convinced of its worthiness.

All 3 ways are fine but my personal opinion would be to find a limited workforce non-profit-organization (who do not waste much resources on fancy websites, multiple telephone lines and big offices and of course salaries). This is the most effective way to contribute.

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Aren't you doing the same thing by giving money to a charity? I would assume more so (if it's a good charity), because they are far more organized than a individual, they know the procedures, they have dedicated employees etc.
Not really. I definitely know where the money is going to. Can you bet your life that where you send the money, it's going to be used exactly how you intend it?

If many people do this, it does make a huge difference. Anyway, it's just a suggestion.
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Not really. I definitely know where the money is going to. Can you bet your life that where you send the money, it's going to be used exactly how you intend it?

If many people do this, it does make a huge difference. Anyway, it's just a suggestion.
That's a valid point. Remember the outrage when it was revealed that PETA used donations to fund its kill shelter?
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That's a valid point. Remember the outrage when it was revealed that PETA used donations to fund its kill shelter?
Yes, the beef industry, the chicken industry, and the pig industries were thrilled.
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Not really. I definitely know where the money is going to. Can you bet your life that where you send the money, it's going to be used exactly how you intend it?



If many people do this, it does make a huge difference. Anyway, it's just a suggestion.

most of the things these charities do are not possible for individuals. big Public campaigns, ongoing rescue operations, sanctuaries, lawsuits, undercover videos etc. When you see those things happening, you know your money is being used. Maybe not with 100% efficiency, but more efficiently than if I tried to do such a thing myself.

I'm not saying you can't or should t do anything by yourself. If you can it's pretty great. But big charities have a place in animal rights movements and we need people who funds them.

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You can check for a charity's "trustworthiness" online (they are required to post their tax information in the US)

A quick google search gave me these, but I'm sure there are many more:

http://www.charitynavigator.org
http://charitycheck101.org
http://www.guidestar.org/rxb/product...ity-check.aspx
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