Originally Posted by AspireToInspire
Why is my
response beside the point? Though it might not fit in entirely with your own, I have an opinion as well.
I wasn't targeting you, just pointing out that 'averting your eyes' isn't the solution to people that bring negative impacts to the vegan movement. And for the record, 'movement' is about as vague a term as it can be, so it's not a 'neat definition.' I think combating sexism like PETA is as important as distancing ourselves from people that use gratuitous violence.
And yes, some people might be offended by nudity, but averting your eyes isn't the answer in relation to a movement you adovcate with. I'm sure that you're infuritated with the mess of gratuitous nudity on tv, etc and I actually agree with you.
The difference between PETA and stuff like the 'slut walk' is that PETA conforms to the offensive standards of feminity promoted by the media and predominantly favours white, attractive skinny women. The slut walk is solidarity with all women, because all
women are at risk of rape in the area it took place. There's a lot of debate to be had about the language use, but I won't bother getting into that here...
But yea, sorry that you took what I said so personally, I realise it was phrased rather confrontationally and didn't mean it to sound so combative. The only thing I would add is that while some people do discern between PETA and the rest of veganism, the divide seems in popular culture to exist as; 'if they talk about it, they're probably PETA, if they don't, they're ok.' PETA has, I think, definitely resulted in some smears against veganism.
Originally Posted by SomebodyElse
This. It's the favored tactic of sexists to make people who object to sexism look like they are all a bunch of anti-sex and anti-nudity prudes, when that's got nothing to do with it.
It certainly is. I'd be quite happy to see PETA conducting nude protests if they didn't exclude larger women, men and the transgendered too. The heteronormative cisgender style doesn't offer them anything other than the sexist grunts of lechers and maybe showing people other than the 'beautiful people' would encourage others to make a change.