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Guitar_tech92 04-06-2009 01:35 PM

Im horrified at all the things that have eggs in them, from you more experienced vegans, can you give me a heads-up of foods i may surprised have eggs (and things with eggs) in it?

Bells 04-06-2009 01:53 PM

Honestly, you just have to read the ingredients! Eggs and other animal products always seem to pop up where you least expect it, but the quickest way to scan for eggs is to look for the boldface "Contains:" (the allergen statement) at the bottom of the ingredients. Other than that, you have to read to be sure.

sleepydvdr 04-06-2009 01:59 PM

I was doing my own thing quietly and YOU are the one who created this post trying to make a big deal out of it. Keep flaming the fire. That must be what you want.


RockabillyVegan 04-06-2009 02:19 PM

I always laugh whenever I see "whey" in an item (most commonly bread or cereal), seriously, is it that hard to avoid whey?!



I don't understand why morning-star has eggs in their products, I would think that if you are going through the trouble (so to speak) to make a faux meat suitable for vegetarians, wouldn't you want to make it suitable for vegans as well?!

Teresa 04-06-2009 03:16 PM

Yes, you will have to read ingredients like crazy. I can't shop without my progressive glasses anymore.



Many of the meat substitute products do have egg whites and other ingredients in them. I wish they would go total vegan. I think they would see their sales go up.

veg*nTray 04-06-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Teresa View Post

Yes, you will have to read ingredients like crazy. I can't shop without my progressive glasses anymore.



Many of the meat substitute products do have egg whites and other ingredients in them. I wish they would go total vegan. I think they would see their sales go up.

I agree. Most people that want to buy vegetarian won't care if it's vegan, but not being vegan makes them lose business.



I really wish Quorn would go vegan, too.

eistxist 04-06-2009 03:28 PM

http://www.safekids.co.uk/ChoosingAnEggFreeDiet.html

http://www.veganpeace.org/ingredients/ingredients.htm



On the second site, press Ctrl + F and search for "egg."



Also, I agree with Rockabilly; it's amazing to see the number of products which contain unneeded animal ingredients. If bread, cakes, pastas, pies, sauces, and other goods can be made just as well without eggs, why do they contain them?

RockabillyVegan 04-06-2009 03:33 PM

^well not just because they can be made without the ingredients, some of them are totally unnecessary! The best example is bread, bread is made with flour, yeast, water, salt, and sugar (sometimes oil), but the bread you buy in the supermarket has tons of other crap thrown in there! And not just animal ingredients, there seems to be a lot of other chemicals thrown in as well.



oh well, that's why I make my own bread

Bells 04-06-2009 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RockabillyVegan View Post


I don't understand why morning-star has eggs in their products, I would think that if you are going through the trouble (so to speak) to make a faux meat suitable for vegetarians, wouldn't you want to make it suitable for vegans as well?!



Eggs make the texture of their products better, so their foods wouldn't be the same without them. But I definitely agree; morning-star should make their products vegan to appeal to a wider market... Although if they did, they might lose part of their meat-eating consumer base. My brother likes some of morning-star's products and prefers them to the ones who do not contain eggs.

RockabillyVegan 04-06-2009 04:19 PM

loose some of their meat eating consumers? if an omni is open minded enough to eat faux meat, I don't think they would notice that there is no eggs in the product....and I don't think a vegetarian would look at the package and say, "oh they are now vegan in lieu of vegetarian. This must taste aweful."



Vegan/vegetarian products are hit and miss anyway. And I think a vegetarian or anyone trying a faux meat product is open minded enough to try a vegan product. They will probably already have product loyalty towards morning-star and are willing to try it.



and I'm not sure how much the eggs/milk effects the taste of their products, I've eaten a lot of vegan faux meat that has tasted wonderful. I think just about every ingredient can be replaced without effecting the taste (to a certain degree for some things).



For example, I prefer cookies with egg replacer than how I remember "regular" cookies tasting.



I think it depends on the cook, I think they could make tasty faux meats without egg/milk, after all a number of other companies have already done so.

zombina 04-07-2009 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by veg*nTray View Post

I agree. Most people that want to buy vegetarian won't care if it's vegan, but not being vegan makes them lose business.



I really wish Quorn would go vegan, too.



I wish Quorn would go vegan, too. I'm transitioning to vegan right now, and I have a mild soy allergy. I CAN eat Morningstar and Boca and soy "meats", but only certain things in moderation, and I'm usually a little itchy and uncomfortable when I do. I don't want to have to give up Quorn.

Bells 04-07-2009 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RockabillyVegan View Post

loose some of their meat eating consumers? if an omni is open minded enough to eat faux meat, I don't think they would notice that there is no eggs in the product....and I don't think a vegetarian would look at the package and say, "oh they are now vegan in lieu of vegetarian. This must taste aweful."



Vegan/vegetarian products are hit and miss anyway. And I think a vegetarian or anyone trying a faux meat product is open minded enough to try a vegan product. They will probably already have product loyalty towards morning-star and are willing to try it.



and I'm not sure how much the eggs/milk effects the taste of their products, I've eaten a lot of vegan faux meat that has tasted wonderful. I think just about every ingredient can be replaced without effecting the taste (to a certain degree for some things).



For example, I prefer cookies with egg replacer than how I remember "regular" cookies tasting.



I think it depends on the cook, I think they could make tasty faux meats without egg/milk, after all a number of other companies have already done so.



I never said taking the eggs out would make the products taste bad, but it would affect their texture quite a bit. Eggs act like a binder; they make foods chewier, denser... If you've ever had a baked good with and then without eggs, you can definitely taste the difference.



Sure, they could change, but they are doing well with eggs as it seems to appeal to the consumers they want: meat-eaters and vegetarians. But if they did remove the egg ingredients, yes, they would lose some consumers because the texture and flavor would be different. I've heard some say faux meats taste "plantier" without eggs/dairy, so while that might be an ideal taste to you, it might turn off meat-eaters or vegetarians who have just made the switch.



I am in no way advocating eggs, but morning-star would have changed long ago if the company considered the alternatives to be more profitable.

cadellin 04-07-2009 06:54 AM

I suspect that it's largely down to the cost of the raw materials. I wouldn't be surprised if egg and dairy products are actually cheaper for the manufacturers to buy in bulk than vegan alternatives due to economies of scale.

veg*nTray 04-07-2009 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bells View Post

Eggs make the texture of their products better, so their foods wouldn't be the same without them. But I definitely agree; morning-star should make their products vegan to appeal to a wider market... Although if they did, they might lose part of their meat-eating consumer base. My brother likes some of morning-star's products and prefers them to the ones who do not contain eggs.

Honestly I've found that if given two options, the vegan one is usually tastier in my opinion. For example, all vegetarian hot dogs I've tried have been gross, and they've all contained egg. Smart Dogs on the other hand are vegan and absolutely delicious. I'm not saying it's necessarily the egg that makes the others taste bad, but maybe whatever the vegan brand (LightLife) is using as a binder instead is just better tasting. Vegan products are also the ones my omni bf enjoys the most-- he says they taste the best and most 'realistic'.

broccolichick 04-07-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bells View Post

I never said taking the eggs out would make the products taste bad, but it would affect their texture quite a bit. Eggs act like a binder; they make foods chewier, denser... If you've ever had a baked good with and then without eggs, you can definitely taste the difference.



Sure, they could change, but they are doing well with eggs as it seems to appeal to the consumers they want: meat-eaters and vegetarians. But if they did remove the egg ingredients, yes, they would lose some consumers because the texture and flavor would be different. I've heard some say faux meats taste "plantier" without eggs/dairy, so while that might be an ideal taste to you, it might turn off meat-eaters or vegetarians who have just made the switch.



I am in no way advocating eggs, but morning-star would have changed long ago if the company considered the alternatives to be more profitable.



This is actually true.



I used to eat the Morningstar faux nuggets and faux buffalo nuggets, which aren't vegan, and they have a much chewier, more meat-like consistency than than Boca's vegan chik'n nuggets, which I currently consume.



Sometimes it's hard to replace egg in things, just in general.



I've never tasted Quorn, but I'd doubt they'd be able to make a vegan version with the same consistency.

Moophius 04-07-2009 11:25 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bells View Post

I never said taking the eggs out would make the products taste bad, but it would affect their texture quite a bit. Eggs act like a binder; they make foods chewier, denser... If you've ever had a baked good with and then without eggs, you can definitely taste the difference.



Sure, they could change, but they are doing well with eggs as it seems to appeal to the consumers they want: meat-eaters and vegetarians. But if they did remove the egg ingredients, yes, they would lose some consumers because the texture and flavor would be different. I've heard some say faux meats taste "plantier" without eggs/dairy, so while that might be an ideal taste to you, it might turn off meat-eaters or vegetarians who have just made the switch.



I am in no way advocating eggs, but morning-star would have changed long ago if the company considered the alternatives to be more profitable.

Very true. I used to be a huge fan of Morningstar's spicy black bean burger, even before I gave much thought to giving up meat--I simply liked how it tasted. The company makes a vegan burger (with totally different ingredients) and it is, in my opinion, terrible. I've made vegan black bean burgers at home, and it's really tough to get them to stick together in neat little patties; they tend to fall apart on me. And I hate to admit it, but I don't think mine are as good as Morningstar's. Vegans make up less than five percent of the population, and given the overlap with raw foodists, locavores, and organic/natural food fans, I can't imagine there's more than a 1% market share to be gained by veganizing their products, while doing so would almost certainly negatively impact the flavor profile and upset some long-term customers.



It's unfortunate.

Mrrple 04-08-2009 12:04 AM

I find eggs are totally easy to avoid because there are few hidden ingredients derived from them.

RockabillyVegan 04-08-2009 12:46 PM

I really don't think that eggs will make or break a product. If they have good enough chefs than they don't need to worry about the taste changing for the worse. There are so many companies that have vegan faux meat that is absolutely wonderful! You don't need to rely on morning-star alone!



These are absolutely the best brand I've ever had:

http://www.veganstore.com/viana-chic...e_1/557nu.html



And they're vegan!! NO cruelty involved



not to mention that they are absolutely delicious

Moonlily 04-08-2009 08:28 PM

I'm anaphylactic to eggs (deathly allergic) and so I hear ya. I would look up on google allergy info with eggs and ingredients to watch out for, one definite is lecithin, but theres quite a few. Even flu shots have egg in them...wtf...

Tofu-N-Sprouts 04-08-2009 11:19 PM

I have trouble finding bread without whey, but never see eggs in regular bread, ever. Sweet cakes and pastries maybe, but just regular sandwich bread? Eggs, really?

WonderRandy 04-09-2009 12:18 AM

^^^ zactly.



I always run into whey and honey (and high-fructose corn syrup, and enriched flours, and hydrogenated oils, and other crappy crap) in breads, never eggs.

soonjung 04-12-2009 06:58 AM

A little OT, but I just heard that Boca has pledged to make their products egg-free in 2010.

snookes4 04-13-2009 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by eistxist View Post

http://www.safekids.co.uk/ChoosingAnEggFreeDiet.html

http://www.veganpeace.org/ingredients/ingredients.htm



On the second site, press Ctrl + F and search for "egg."



Also, I agree with Rockabilly; it's amazing to see the number of products which contain unneeded animal ingredients. If bread, cakes, pastas, pies, sauces, and other goods can be made just as well without eggs, why do they contain them?

Thanks man great!!!

Tom 04-13-2009 09:31 AM

My main problem with eggs is how they turn up in commercially-baked things like brownies or cinnamon buns. It's annoying, but at least it doesn't adversely impact my health to avoid sweet things.



The owner of a small local lunch eatery knows I'm vegan as far as diet goes, and initially warned me that their new home-made black bean burgers used egg as a binder. But they just use a bit of flour now.

MaryToulouse 04-17-2009 06:05 AM

I've just been caught out by whey in muesli, the shame.



I wrote to Quorn last year because their advertising campaign completely glossed over the fact that they were a vegetarian product, and they were focussing on the low-fat health aspect of eating their stuff. I was angry about it because I thought they were alienating their core-consumers. They never replied, which made me angrier, but they did stop showing the adverts quite quickly. . .



Anyway, I'm vegan now, so I've boycotted them anyway. Ha.

PlaybackGuru 04-17-2009 06:24 AM

Who need Quorn when It's All Good....

Vegan and awesome!!!


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