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#1 Old 01-18-2008, 09:07 PM
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So the other night I was praying for some doors to be opened regarding a vegetarian group on campus, if it was within the Lord's will. Well, today my nutrition and fitness instructor asked if I would be interested in speaking with her nutrition class some time next semester (in a month or so) about the benefits of veganism and to answer some class questions!



Yeah cool!!



So, what sorts of things do you all recommend I bring up? It's a nutrition class, so I'll probably keep it to health related things.



But yeah, any suggestions?



Should I just walk in, play a clip of "Steven the Vegan" and walk out? Mention that, yes, yes, yes I do get enough protein? Tell them that, oddly enough, fish are animals. It's pretty open ended, so. And it's exciting!
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#2 Old 01-18-2008, 11:44 PM
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I think my favorite thing about eating vegan (aside from no guilt) is the wonderful feeling I get from eating wholesome foods. Make sure you talk about balanced diets and include lots of different sources of protein besides tofu. Also have knowledge of what to do about B12, since that might be a question most people will ask.



Just be sure to keep the talk nice and positive about all the benefits of veganism. :] That's my best advice..
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I have no advice, just wanted to say YAY! HOW COOL!
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#4 Old 01-19-2008, 04:08 AM
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I think maybe it might be a good idea to encourage people to have one vegan day a week or something? I know that a lot of omnis get put off from veg*nism because it means they can never eat meat, cheese etc. which they can't bear to give up! But having one vegan day a week is manageable for them- it's good for their health, and better for animals and the environment. Imagine if everyone had one vegan day a week? That would already reduce animal product consumption by a huge amount...



Point out the fact that you only need to have 3 servings of meat per week to maintain a healthy diet (without substituting) and that most people have at least 10! (One every night with dinner, plus some during lunch and breakfast as well!). This is far too much animal product consumption and it means high cholesterol levels, higher fat levels and bad hearts!



It might also be a good idea to say that normal foods are vegan too! Try and give them meal ideas that they can make using regular ingredients, because that way they are less freaked out by the idea of becoming vegan! Some stir fry's, salads, soups are really good!



I don't know if this is the kind of stuff you are after actually...

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#5 Old 01-19-2008, 05:32 AM
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Wow, what a great opportunity!! Go you!



Yes, what they ^^^ said. And maybe bake some yummy vegan cookies to hand out...I know, they may not be entirely healthy since cookies are a snack food, but an occasional treat is necessary to maintaining a healthy diet...they need to know a vegan diet is not about being deprived. The way to win them over is through their stomach!! Don't forget to let us know how it goes!
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that's great, t

I like Karen's idea of handing out something tasty. I think if you can photocopy a vegan recipe or a couple of vegan recipes and maybe the vegan food pyramid for them to take away that would be cool
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I think you need to touch on a number of issues, obviously. Maybe you can photocopy some recipes to hand out, then pick one of them to go through and analyze the nutritional content - what you get and, just as important, what you avoid.



You should probably also say something about why people choose to become vegan - that it's not all about nutrition.



Maybe something about common myths - cow's milk is a good source of calcium, that you need all this protein, that you need to eat fish for omega-3, b12 supplements are "unnatural" etc.



Also think about what questions they might ask and how you want to answer those.



Anyway, I have faith in you. I'm sure you can do this really well.

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"Steven the Vegan" is kickass.



And good luck, I did made a similar mini-presentation at my old dorm.

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Bring food! Like cookies or something.
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Maybe something about common myths - cow's milk is a good source of calcium, that you need all this protein, that you need to eat fish for omega-3, b12 supplements are "unnatural" etc.



Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Try to clear up some of the common misconceptions people have about nutrition and veganism.
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Since you have a month, why not send away for some free literature/pamphlets etc. that each person can take with them, one that explains many of the cornerstones of veganism?



That is the most effective way I have ever done presentations.



http://www.pcrm.org/magazine/gm05summer/tools.html



http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/WhyVegan.pdf



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So cool! That's awesome Troub!!!



I agree with everyone's ideas about bringing food. Nothing opens people's eyes like food. AHIMSA's ide is genius! The ideas about photocopying (with permission) and handing out recipes are great too. Maybe a side by side nutritional comparison on two similar meals one vegan and one not.



I think one of the most inportant things to talk about is where vitamins and minerals come from. Most people don't know these things. If you ask someone where calcium comes from they usually say milk but it's a mineral that comes from the earth, that the animals eat, and we (they) get it through them (though animals aren't grazing and are getting supplements these days). It's the 5th most abundant mineral in the earth, I think. So cut out the middle-cow and help people understand where vitamins and minerals come from (the earth).



I'm excited for you! This is going to be a great opportunity to speak for people's health, the animals, and your beliefs!
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I think everyone has given some wonderful suggestions here, now you just have to sort it out and put it in order! I really like the idea of suggesting a healthy vegan meal once a week. Good luck and let us know how it goes!
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People always say how healthy fish is because of the omega fatty acids, but mention how flax/hemp is actually 6 times richer in omega fatty acids in comparison with fish...plus without the mercury!



Look here in the "Flax" section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-3_fatty_acid
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People always say how healthy fish is because of the omega fatty acids, but mention how flax/hemp is actually 6 times richer in omega fatty acids in comparison with fish...plus without the mercury!



Look here in the "Flax" section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-3_fatty_acid



Wow! I did not know this! *Goes to buy flax seeds*

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Wow! I did not know this! *Goes to buy flax seeds*



I was so happy when I found that out. Just another thing someone can't tell me I'm lacking by having a vegan diet. I put flax seeds on my cereal in the morning and my baking if I can fit it in. Sometimes I also take a tablespoon of straight flax seed oil...but only if I am feeling hardcore. Flax is my friend. ahah
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I put flax seeds on my cereal in the morning and my baking if I can fit it in. Sometimes I also take a tablespoon of straight flax seed oil...but only if I am feeling hardcore. Flax is my friend. ahah



Baking it removes the benefits though, it's heated too much.
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Baking it removes the benefits though, it's heated too much.





Oh, I didn't know that. DARN! Thanks for the info though.
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Baking it removes the benefits though, it's heated too much.



Tofu, do you have recent information that says this? I ask because I had read everywhere that frying or coiling would do this, but baking would not. That's what I've always told people, too!

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Baking it removes the benefits though, it's heated too much.



Tofu, do you have recent information that says this? I ask because I had read everywhere that frying or boiling could do this, but baking would not. That's what I've always told people, too!

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Tofu, do you have recent information that says this? I ask because I had read everywhere that frying or boiling could do this, but baking would not. That's what I've always told people, too!

I have heard both ways, originally though it seemed that most reliable sources agreed that moderate-to-lower heats are OK (like mixing into already cooked oatmeal, etc) , but those temps used for traditional baking are usually too high.



Of course I read all that various places on the 'net and wouldn't be able to find it now, especially since 90% of the Google hits for "Flax" these days are commercial sites that have nothing but wild super-food-cancer-cure-viagra-like claims for Flax.
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A lot of people approach vegan foods with preconceptions. I would guess that some people wouldn't really try the cookies. They might nibble a piece or smell it, then set it off to the side.



Rather than give them one cookie and letting them know in advance that it is vegan, why not give each a plate with 4 different small homemade cookies. Tell them 2 of the cookies are vegan. Then everyone does a taste test and you challenge them to identify the vegan cookies. Try to make them think about what they are tasting and whether it is a different as they might think. Then they are pondering whether the animal products are noticeable, or even necessary.

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Did you know that calorie for calorie broccoli and romaine lettuce have more protein that sirloin?



In 100 calories of broccoli:



Protein 11.2 g

Calcium 182 mg

iron 2.2 mg



In 100 calories of sirloin:



Protein: 5.4 g

Calcium 2.4 mg

Iron .7 mg



In 100 calories of romaine:



Protein 11.6 g

Calcium 257 mg

Iron 7.9 mg





I agree with everyone else, bake something yummy!
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A lot of people approach vegan foods with preconceptions. I would guess that some people wouldn't really try the cookies. They might nibble a piece or smell it, then set it off to the side.



Rather than give them one cookie and letting them know in advance that it is vegan, why not give each a plate with 4 different small homemade cookies. Tell them 2 of the cookies are vegan. Then everyone does a taste test and you challenge them to identify the vegan cookies. Try to make them think about what they are tasting and whether it is a different as they might think. Then they are pondering whether the animal products are noticeable, or even necessary.



That is a cool idea. But, in my experience, no one has ever turned away any vegan treat I have given them, or nibbled it and set it aside. Usually the response is something more along the lines of: "This is vegan????"
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... in my experience, no one has ever turned away any vegan treat I have given them, or nibbled it and set it aside. Usually the response is something more along the lines of: "This is vegan????"



Exactly my experience as well! I have had people look oddly at things that were blatently vegan like tofu "eggless-salad" or BBQ Tempeh... but even then, most usually try it. Cookies though? They're so busy inhaling them they do't have time to ask.
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Did you know that calorie for calorie broccoli and romaine lettuce have more protein that sirloin?



In 100 calories of broccoli:



Protein 11.2 g

Calcium 182 mg

iron 2.2 mg



In 100 calories of sirloin:



Protein: 5.4 g

Calcium 2.4 mg

Iron .7 mg



In 100 calories of romaine:



Protein 11.6 g

Calcium 257 mg

Iron 7.9 mg





I agree with everyone else, bake something yummy!



That's really neat info!

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Troub,

what a wonderful opportunity!

I think you'll do a wonderful job. I agree with bringing in some food if you can, but make sure to have an ingredients for people, just in case they have allergies.



I think giving them wide variety of information on veganism is the best. I'm sure you'll find a way to make it interesting and fun.

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Did you know that calorie for calorie broccoli and romaine lettuce have more protein that sirloin?



In 100 calories of broccoli:



Protein 11.2 g

Calcium 182 mg

iron 2.2 mg



In 100 calories of sirloin:



Protein: 5.4 g

Calcium 2.4 mg

Iron .7 mg



In 100 calories of romaine:



Protein 11.6 g

Calcium 257 mg

Iron 7.9 mg





I agree with everyone else, bake something yummy!



THat's neat, but they're not complete proteins. So it's important to understand that a varied diet is needed to eat healthy. But of course you knew that already ;]
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how cool troub!!



it would be funny to hand out the cookies right at the beginning, let them start nibbling as you are "setting up" (ie: wasting time) and then ask the class what they think of vegan foods and vegans (in terms of nutrition)...and while they are declaring vegans as being wiry-protein-derived-nuts-and-berries scavengers, the cookie crumbs will go flying. ahaha.



do let us know how it goes!



i agrre that the recipe handout and nutritional breakdown would be cool.

maybe a list of some other high nutrient foods...high in iron, calcium, omegas, etc.

and some websites for info/ recipes.
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Ditto to all the suggestions for bringing snacks. Once someone tries them and says they're yummy, it will break the ice with most other hesitant folks.



Since the group is college students, maybe a focus on some things that are easy/quick/cheap to prepare would be helpful. I think sometimes people think veganism is "too hard" or that you have to buy costly specialty foods. If there's a large group that has to eat in the food hall/dorm/cafeteria, etc. maybe you could offer some suggestions there as well.



A take home sheet of nutritional content of some vegan foods would be good. We have a poster that we got from Viva! that's pretty cool, maybe they have something online as well.

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