I was so interested to see this post by chance on veggieboards, I made an account just to reply to you.
I am a vegan of 4 years.
Dental health has also been a key theme in my life and I've had some learning experience going vegan. it's something i'm always trying to learn more about. I'm not super knowledgeable, but I have found more or less what works for me. i'm not a dentist, obviously.
First thing to consider maybe, is that dentists are experts at filling in holes, patching up teeth, doing extractions etc. They are not experts in the biochemistry of the mouth or the role of diet in dental health. So you don't have to take their advice as face value. They are of course 99% likely to be recommending animal products simply because Carnism is the invisible, wide-spread, institutionalised monster that it is, and seen as 'the right way' and when you have a health problem and you're not a carnist, it's easy to blame your non-carnist diet. Like the person above said, there is no reason you need to eat animal flesh or secretions again. Stay strong in your ethical choice! you don't need to.
I have read a book called "tooth decay... something.." by Ramiel Nagel, and it was really interesting, you could look into it. the man is not a certified nutritionist and a HUGE Weston Price fan and major carnist. He recommends a paleo type diet, but don't use that word. Rich in butter and all types of meat and no grains. Disgusting really, absolutely disgusting, for the animals, and the effect that diet has on the health of the planet, I mean talk about selfish. BUT I think the book covers some good points about the vitamins and minerals that are needed for dental remineralisation (some dentists don't even believe in this, but I have noticed it in my self and there are plenty of anecdotal accounts of it being possible). Fat Soluble vitamins are important, along with phosphorus and calcium and stuff. Plant foods can be a bit lower in fat soluble vitamins, but not impossible to find. So maybe look into that.
That * is referring to the fact that I paraphrased that from doug grahams 801010 book, maybe you know about the diet already. but just for a contrasting approach, he would say excessive fat soluble vitamins or eating higher fat are not at all beneficial or necessary for excellent dental and overall health. don't want to give you a headache- I know it's hard when you're going it alone and battling through all the information and methods you could try, I more want to reassure you that different approaches can be tested.
Calcium and phosphorus could be important ones to consider. you say you are taking supplements, but we have to think about the bioavailability of these nutrients. Supplements are not in nautral form and are not always well absorbed. Maybe try focusing on natural sources of these minerals, prioritising fruit and vegetables are your sources. Try upping your intake of leafy greens, these are great for minerals and calcium and overall thriving health. whack a tahini dressing on there and you've got a lot of calcium and yumminess! Medical Medium- Anthony William- is a treasure trove of information and has some good pointers of tooth decay in his second book. Check him out. and enjoy the ride! boy is he something special (stay open minded
) also check out his dental health podcast of hay house radio- a must! you can access his archive by paying a small fee for a monthly subscription , totally worth it. that podcast has a lot of great info. he says oranges are the best bioavailable form of calcium- they might be challenging at the moment if your teeth are very sensitive though.
which brings me to my next point... brushing. 3 times a day is quite a lot of brush. you should definitely wait at least 20 minutes after eating anything before brushing. 40 if you're in a tricky place at the moment. this is key I have noticed. You brush away the enamel easily when it is softened after eating. so give it some time. In the morning if I won't have time to brush after breakfast before going out i'll try and do it earlier in the morning (not after drinking lemon water though! or tea!!) or i'll pack my teeth stuff and do it on the go. it becomes a habit. THEN the other important thing is to make sure there is absolutely no residue of food on your teeth after eating. I rinse my mouth well with water, or if I have and need my brush use it just to flick the pieces at the back out (but no real brushing!), in public you can easily swirl water around and then just swallow it down. It can also be a good idea to go easy on eating sticky things (e.g. potato crisps, but it doesn't sound like you eat that, maybe crackers etc) and dried fruit alone- they can be bad for sticking to your teeth and leaving traces. try blending dried fruit into smoothies if you eat like that. Datorade is a good idea instead of just dates. dentists will say lay off the smoothies etc. I say no need to fear the natural sugar, it is life giving and will help us gain the health we need to have radiant teeth! have smoothies, and rinse well afterwards. Maybe also don't floss more than once a day either, that might be wearing your gums out a bit? Dentists also say avoid lemon water, but, as per medical mediums wisdom, I think this plays a key role in excellent dental health- again, that podcast
lemon kills the unproductive mouth bacteria. just keep the water cool-er, otherwise you've got boiling acid.
STRAWS! straws can be a great help. do the planet a favour and avoid the plastic ones like the plague! they contribute to our islands of plastic in the ocean and get stuck in poor turtles etc..
invest in some good stainless steel/glass wide-ish straws, then you can have as much warm lemon water as you want, and have orange juice, and smoothies, if you feel you don't want these things to touch your teeth always (just drink it straight down and don't first savour it in the mouth.) you won't be able so mix all the carbohydrates with your saliva to start digestion, but hey, we've got to compromise on something here. it's just temporary!
One thing that stayed with me from that book I mentioned is what he said about phytates. Now, if you look into Weston prices work around dental health, don't get dismayed. I don't think his work has been validated with modern medicine and peer-reviewed stellar studies. Basically, phytates are the devil according to him and make teeth remineralisation impossible, and they are high in grains and beans (yeah.. so not such good news for vegans, often our diets are made easy using these daily. plus beans and grains do have many well understood and concensus-backed properties.). for example, oatmeal is extremely high in phytates, and has no phytase which breaks down the phytase, basically in this book it said that phytates block the teeth minerals from being absorbed. I don't really know if it's true. What we do know for sure from science (check out nutritionfacts.org for this and other good videos on dental health) is that phytates are cancer preventing!! so clearly, phytates are not the devil... But.. I do think there are more healing foods to be eaten than grains and beans at a time like yours. If you can, and if it calls to you, and if it makes sense after checking out some of Anthony Williams work maybe consider reducing or avoiding grains and eating more vegetables, easy to eat fruits for your teeth (not too much dried alone) and heaps of potatoes instead of those grains - don't go hungry! keep up that starch and carbs. we don't want you feeling deprived or like you need to go back to animal products.
Maybe you could also consider trying to look for a holistic dentist? There are some dentists too who work with alternative methods like tuning forks and stuff... I don't know, but know that your healer is out there and supporting you! or maybe you'll do it all on your own
I think that's all I've got for now. I might remember something else.
Seriously, I know how hard it is to eat an angelic-ly vegan zero junk diet and have a health challenge and have no idea what to do next. don't worry. there is a way. research, invest, trust, try. you can have perfect teeth again. There a million ways to be vegan within the vegan diet, you just need some tweaking to get what you need.
Maybe also consider from the mindbody perspective, if you're interested in that and know anything about it, what this could be relating to. What needs paying attention in your life that could be communicated to you through this painful sensitivity in your teeth. Do you feel pained by and sensitive to information you have to ingest or your surroundings ? I can recommend the book "your body speaks your mind" by deb shapiro for more on this.
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p.s. omg I've just had to do one of those human verification test things before posting this and the word I had to copy was "chicken salad".... invisible, institutionalised carnism, as I way saying...