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#1 Old 03-14-2016, 05:50 PM
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Veganism and Anemia

Hey gang, I am new to this forum and I have not checked out any other threads so I hope i'm posting my question in the correct forum. I have been vegan now for 2 months and I love it. I have been diagnosed as slightly anemic and the doctor I went to today suggested that I eat meat and stop being vegan for the next two months while I try and get my iron levels up. Now being that I am only SLIGHTLY anemic I would prefer to continue eating whole foods and plants rather than eat meat. I am hoping there may be a doctor or someone with a medical background that can shed some light on this issue. The reason that I am slightly anemic most likely is because I was taking antibiotics for a few weeks to fight off an infection (says the doctor). Anyways, any info is much appreciated. Thanks!
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#2 Old 03-14-2016, 06:02 PM
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Unfortunately doctors don't receive but a few hours of nutrition.
I'd always bordered on anemic as a meat eater, since going veg 16 years ago I've been fine. I use cast iron, watch that I keep teas and coffee from iron foods, eat fortified cereals.
I just got tested--came back at 14- good

Cream of wheat is often fortified high in iron. Check labels. You should be fine, and even if you need to supplement a while, better than meat.

I'd suggest some good fermented foods to get your gut bacteria up!
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One of the VeggieBoard contributors, @LedBoots , is a nurse. You could try contacting her directly for advice: https://www.veggieboards.com/forum/members/50104-ledboots.html

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#4 Old 03-14-2016, 07:27 PM
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Meat isn't actually that great of a source as far as I know. I've looked it up before and it's not a very good source at all. Foods loaded with iron are:

cumin(curries, tacos, etc....om nom nom)
fennel seed(if you like licorice you can just munch this as a snack really)
Lentils are pretty good
Rice is also good

If you make a lentil curry with loads of cumin and have it with rice you could easily get 400+% of your daily iron. Have it with vitamin C and you should be just fine. To get 400% of your iron from steak you'd need to eat 2kg of it which is a ridiculous 6000 calories worth.
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Meat isn't actually that great of a source as far as I know. I've looked it up before and it's not a very good source at all. Foods loaded with iron are:

cumin(curries, tacos, etc....om nom nom)
fennel seed(if you like licorice you can just munch this as a snack really)
Lentils are pretty good
Rice is also good

If you make a lentil curry with loads of cumin and have it with rice you could easily get 400+% of your daily iron. Have it with vitamin C and you should be just fine. To get 400% of your iron from steak you'd need to eat 2kg of it which is a ridiculous 6000 calories worth.

Oh, please be careful. Rice is a very poor source of iron. One cup of cooked rice only contains 4% of the recommended daily intake of iron: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=brown+rice

Fennel, cumin seeds, and lentils are good sources of iron, definitely. Fennel seeds taste like licorice, very delicious! Licorice itself is not a good source of iron.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennel#Nutrition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#Nutritional_value
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumin#Nutritional_value
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Hey gang, I am new to this forum and I have not checked out any other threads so I hope i'm posting my question in the correct forum. I have been vegan now for 2 months and I love it. I have been diagnosed as slightly anemic and the doctor I went to today suggested that I eat meat and stop being vegan for the next two months while I try and get my iron levels up. Now being that I am only SLIGHTLY anemic I would prefer to continue eating whole foods and plants rather than eat meat. I am hoping there may be a doctor or someone with a medical background that can shed some light on this issue. The reason that I am slightly anemic most likely is because I was taking antibiotics for a few weeks to fight off an infection (says the doctor). Anyways, any info is much appreciated. Thanks!
Here is an article, written by a vegan Registered Dietitian, regarding iron and vegan diets: http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/iron

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hmm seems to be a lot of variance in rice. 200g dry of some rice can contain over 100% of the DRI of iron. I'd suggest just checking the package of the particular rice you have.

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Trying to see if lentils very a lot too but I am not getting good info. I found some site that claims they're all pretty similar but who knows.

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I have been diagnosed as slightly anemic and the doctor I went to today suggested that I eat meat and stop being vegan for the next two months while I try and get my iron levels up.
Might I suggest looking for a new doctor?! A physician who knows so little about anemia that s/he would tell a vegan to eat meat as its treatment doesn't sound like a very good choice...to me.

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Now being that I am only SLIGHTLY anemic I would prefer to continue eating whole foods and plants rather than eat meat. I am hoping there may be a doctor or someone with a medical background that can shed some light on this issue. The reason that I am slightly anemic most likely is because I was taking antibiotics for a few weeks to fight off an infection (says the doctor). Anyways, any info is much appreciated. Thanks!
There are many different types of anemia, and they have different causes and treatments. I've been veg*n for 28 years and during that time I've had long bouts of anemia--the type where the body produces plenty of red blood cells, but then they die off prematurely--and NEVER ONCE have any of my doctors told me to eat meat to fix it.
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Taking a iron (and b12 to kill two birds etc) supplement would be my way to go.
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hmm seems to be a lot of variance in rice. 200g dry of some rice can contain over 100% of the DRI of iron. I'd suggest just checking the package of the particular rice you have.

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In the United States, the law requires that all white rice be fortified with iron: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_rice . Rice is not naturally high in iron.
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Hey gang, I am new to this forum and I have not checked out any other threads so I hope i'm posting my question in the correct forum. I have been vegan now for 2 months and I love it. I have been diagnosed as slightly anemic and the doctor I went to today suggested that I eat meat and stop being vegan for the next two months while I try and get my iron levels up. Now being that I am only SLIGHTLY anemic I would prefer to continue eating whole foods and plants rather than eat meat. I am hoping there may be a doctor or someone with a medical background that can shed some light on this issue. The reason that I am slightly anemic most likely is because I was taking antibiotics for a few weeks to fight off an infection (says the doctor). Anyways, any info is much appreciated. Thanks!
Hi Truthseeker89 and welcome.

Many doctors are woefully ignorant in nutrition. If you're underweight, they often recommend meat. If you want to have an eating plan, a registered dietician is a good idea. Try to find one who is veg-friendly.
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Anemia persists and iron levels are fine. Any help?
Thanks
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Anemia persists and iron levels are fine. Any help?
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Hi talkcc,


Could you provide more detail? If your blood iron levels are fine, then how were you diagnosed with anemia? Did you physician diagnose you with anemia, or are you experiencing anemia-like symptoms (fatigue etc.).
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I want to strongly encourage you to present your anemia questions to a Registered Dietitian. Your physician can refer you to one. Our forum-members can't really diagnose us.
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Hi talkcc,


Could you provide more detail? If your blood iron levels are fine, then how were you diagnosed with anemia? Did you physician diagnose you with anemia, or are you experiencing anemia-like symptoms (fatigue etc.).
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I want to strongly encourage you to present your anemia questions to a Registered Dietitian. Your physician can refer you to one. Our forum-members can't really diagnose us.
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Hi, I saw the doctor last week and I spoke to him today and he states that my iron levels are fine he can't figure out why my anemia had gotten worse. He says that he didn't notice this when I was not on a vegan diet. He asked me to see an anemia specialist.
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Well I learned somethings - I always associated anemia with low iron, but apparently -

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Anemia is a sign of a disease, not a disease itself and its complexities extend far beyond sickle cell and iron deficiency. It is condition resulting from a significantly decreased number of red blood cells, which carry oxygen throughout the body
http://www.reviewjournal.com/life/he...ron-deficiency

There were other sites but this was the easiest read, without medical jargon

Question: has your doctor said anything about a genetic disorder called MTHFR? It's where you need methyfolate and can't metabolize folic acid? More to it, it just caught my eye. Folate has something to do with anemia, you can ask your doctor

Is this really something for a dietician if it's not iron or diet related? I wouldn't think so
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Well I learned somethings - I always associated anemia with low iron, but apparently -


http://www.reviewjournal.com/life/he...ron-deficiency

There were other sites but this was the easiest read, without medical jargon

Question: has your doctor said anything about a genetic disorder called MTHFR? It's where you need methyfolate and can't metabolize folic acid? More to it, it just caught my eye. Folate has something to do with anemia, you can ask your doctor

Is this really something for a dietician if it's not iron or diet related? I wouldn't think so
Thanks I will ask my doctor about the condition you suggested.
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