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#1 Old 10-04-2015, 10:51 PM
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Ever since I've become a vegan, seeing people eating meat/animal products or talking about it or talking crap about veganism/making stupid assumptions makes me develop this intense anger inside of me. This didn't happen when I was a vegetarian; what IS this? Why do I act this way now? I just really don't understand the disconnect that everyone has, even though I had the same one a short while ago. I have this intense desire to want to make everyone "wake up" and see what they're doing, and it pisses me off how much nobody cares. I always thought that I wouldn't be one of those militant vegans; I detested them, even. But now I'm becoming one?and it's seriously affecting my relationships with others. How to deal with these weird feelings of intense anger? Has anyone else had this? Am I just being insensitive and not understanding or what? I even kinda feel mad at myself for all those years of being PART of the disconnect.
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I think that happens to anyone who has an enlightenment, so to speak. The initial desire is to share that new found understanding, disappointment in that the people you want to affect, to share this with you, are not ready yet, and if I'm going to play armchair psychologist--perhaps recognizing that you were in their position at one point, too, and recognizing the same thought patterns, excuses, or perhaps belligerent denial. It's wearying.

For myself, even though I don't fully qualify as "vegan" (my reasons are more dietary as opposed to philosophy), I get agitated when I see people glorifying bacon products. I lived in Deep South Texas for the crushing majority of my life, and people glorifying their meat consumption is something I've experienced time, and time, and time again. They express sentiments such as, "Oh, I could never give up my steak. Might as well just kill me," and it's just... that they're unwilling to change isn't so much the issue as much as their callousness to what they're doing.

I don't think you're being insensitive. Far from it. I think it's an overwhelming sensitivity that you have that prompts the anger. It's so much easier to be upset at people for doing exactly what you used to do, because it's as easy as being angry at yourself.

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I think that happens to anyone who has an enlightenment, so to speak. The initial desire is to share that new found understanding, disappointment in that the people you want to affect, to share this with you, are not ready yet, and if I'm going to play armchair psychologist--perhaps recognizing that you were in their position at one point, too, and recognizing the same thought patterns, excuses, or perhaps belligerent denial. It's wearying.

For myself, even though I don't fully qualify as "vegan" (my reasons are more dietary as opposed to philosophy), I get agitated when I see people glorifying bacon products. I lived in Deep South Texas for the crushing majority of my life, and people glorifying their meat consumption is something I've experienced time, and time, and time again. They express sentiments such as, "Oh, I could never give up my steak. Might as well just kill me," and it's just... that they're unwilling to change isn't so much the issue as much as their callousness to what they're doing.

I don't think you're being insensitive. Far from it. I think it's an overwhelming sensitivity that you have that prompts the anger. It's so much easier to be upset at people for doing exactly what you used to do, because it's as easy as being angry at yourself.
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Ever since I've become a vegan, seeing people eating meat/animal products or talking about it or talking crap about veganism/making stupid assumptions makes me develop this intense anger inside of me. This didn't happen when I was a vegetarian; what IS this? Why do I act this way now? I just really don't understand the disconnect that everyone has, even though I had the same one a short while ago. I have this intense desire to want to make everyone "wake up" and see what they're doing, and it pisses me off how much nobody cares. I always thought that I wouldn't be one of those militant vegans; I detested them, even. But now I'm becoming one?and it's seriously affecting my relationships with others. How to deal with these weird feelings of intense anger? Has anyone else had this? Am I just being insensitive and not understanding or what? I even kinda feel mad at myself for all those years of being PART of the disconnect.
Yep, I completely understand you. I feel the same when people are talking against vegans and all the efforts that they are trying to do in order to fight for better world. Well, not a lot of people understand that and we should agree on it. Chocolate, is what always made me calm down in any situation

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Ever since I've become a vegan, seeing people eating meat/animal products or talking about it or talking crap about veganism/making stupid assumptions makes me develop this intense anger inside of me. This didn't happen when I was a vegetarian; what IS this? Why do I act this way now? I just really don't understand the disconnect that everyone has, even though I had the same one a short while ago. I have this intense desire to want to make everyone "wake up" and see what they're doing, and it pisses me off how much nobody cares. I always thought that I wouldn't be one of those militant vegans; I detested them, even. But now I'm becoming one?and it's seriously affecting my relationships with others. How to deal with these weird feelings of intense anger? Has anyone else had this? Am I just being insensitive and not understanding or what? I even kinda feel mad at myself for all those years of being PART of the disconnect.
Yep, I completely understand you. I feel the same when people are talking against vegans and all the efforts that they are trying to do in order to fight for better world. Well, not a lot of people understand that and we should agree on it. Chocolate, is what always made me calm down in any situation
Chocolate is actually made into an ISSUE.
"You know, chocolate is very labor intensive, and the conditions in which cocoa farmers face are very poor. How is that any better than eating meat?"
"Chocolate takes more water to grow than beef"
Both valid points.
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How to deal with these weird feelings of intense anger? Has anyone else had this? Am I just being insensitive and not understanding or what? I even kinda feel mad at myself for all those years of being PART of the disconnect.
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Chocolate: child labor/slavery too darn we can't even feel good about chocolate. Big companies are trying to stop this nonsense but in the fields it's still going on while they think it's ok because they have rules on paper. They need freakin coco police in the field making sure kids are not enslaved!

For the anger issue, it's like a rite of passage so to say, it feels like it anyway. Most of us went through it, then you realized it's hurting you mentally. Then you calm down a bit and find ways to have a solid discussion with scientific facts and all. In the end, all you can do is educate, the choice is theirs and more everyday suddenly open their eyes. Veganism is trendy, it's in the news, products, restaurants, faux-leather products, makeup.

Many are negatively vocal about us but they have nothing to support their meat is healthy claim when we throw the torture, rape and suffering of animals in their face. They can argue all day about health, ethically it's dead wrong and deep inside they know it, they just don't want to let go of the pleasure their taste bugs have with dairy etc. making their stand even more wrong. The funny thing is, it's the spices and salt and herbs and marinade and caramelized seared meat they like not the real bloody raw meat itself like animals eat! I use that to suggest why a supposedly omni should try plant based food Those herbs and spices are vegan, they would loose nothing.

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Chocolate: child labor/slavery too darn we can't even feel good about chocolate. Big companies are trying to stop this nonsense but in the fields it's still going on while they think it's ok because they have rules on paper. They need freakin coco police in the field making sure kids are not enslaved!

For the anger issue, it's like a rite of passage so to say, it feels like it anyway. Most of us went through it, then you realized it's hurting you mentally. Then you calm down a bit and find ways to have a solid discussion with scientific facts and all. In the end, all you can do is educate, the choice is theirs and more everyday suddenly open their eyes. Veganism is trendy, it's in the news, products, restaurants, faux-leather products, makeup.

Many are negatively vocal about us but they have nothing to support their meat is healthy claim when we throw the torture, rape and suffering of animals in their face. They can argue all day about health, ethically it's dead wrong and deep inside they know it, they just don't want to let go of the pleasure their taste bugs have with dairy etc. making their stand even more wrong. The funny thing is, it's the spices and salt and herbs and marinade and caramelized seared meat they like not the real bloody raw meat itself like animals eat! I use that to suggest why a supposedly omni should try plant based food Those herbs and spices are vegan, they would loose nothing.
My dad claims he enjoys the taste of unseasoned meat, and I also believe that he's actually tried it. (Grew up on a farm and all that jazz)

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How to deal with these weird feelings of intense anger? Has anyone else had this? Am I just being insensitive and not understanding or what? I even kinda feel mad at myself for all those years of being PART of the disconnect.
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Haha good strategy. Need to try
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My dad claims he enjoys the taste of unseasoned meat?I believe that he's actually tried it. (Grew up on a farm and all that jazz)
Meat has its own distinct taste, especially on fattier cuts. It depends on what he means unseasoned--as in, just a few sprinkles of salt and pepper as opposed to a marinade, herb crusted, the works, etc.? But yeah. People who eat it enough can develop a taste for it without the spice/herb flairs. Most of my family and I did.

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One of the more satisfying pleasures in life is screaming, "GEEEEET DUUUUUUUNKED!" while destroying the enemy's core in a MOBA.
Eh... I've never had much luck with MOBAs, the communities tend to be unspeakably awful.

For me it'd have to be...

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I just really don't understand the disconnect that everyone has, even though I had the same one a short while ago. I always thought that I wouldn't be one of those militant vegans; I detested them, even. But now I'm becoming one?
It's so funny that I happened upon your thread right after having a serious rant myself. I'm having this anger, too.

I guess it's best if we disconnect ourselves from these other people emotionally. It's not fair that we are expending so much energy on something that they obviously don't care about. Why should we walk around upset and carrying the burden of these other people's actions? We should be happy that we are making the positive changes in our own life and helping the animals and the planet.

Sometimes I really want to point out people's stupidity and hypocrisy, too, but the "militant vegans" will only turn people off from the lifestyle instead of influencing them to make a change themselves. It's hard to bite my tongue but I know I have to.
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The only time I get angry is when I see people posting **** on Youtube comments/twitter basically insulting vegans. Or when meat eaters try to defend their choices with ridiculous arguments.

I think once you get to grips with the anger, you can use it in a positive way to fuel some sort of education and activism.
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Ever since I've become a vegan, seeing people eating meat/animal products or talking about it or talking crap about veganism/making stupid assumptions makes me develop this intense anger inside of me. This didn't happen when I was a vegetarian; what IS this? Why do I act this way now? I just really don't understand the disconnect that everyone has, even though I had the same one a short while ago. I have this intense desire to want to make everyone "wake up" and see what they're doing, and it pisses me off how much nobody cares. I always thought that I wouldn't be one of those militant vegans; I detested them, even. But now I'm becoming one?and it's seriously affecting my relationships with others. How to deal with these weird feelings of intense anger? Has anyone else had this? Am I just being insensitive and not understanding or what? I even kinda feel mad at myself for all those years of being PART of the disconnect.
I did the same thing....got angry initially.

It's kinda simple, though....

You care about animals, and other people like to eat them.

I wanted to make a difference, but realized that the whole social culture promotes meat eating. Taking a step back, and abstaining from meat is like joining a cult, or something. People categorize you as a freak. "You don't eat at Burger King, Mc Donalds, or Taco Bell?" Yeah.... I'm a freak. But I'm cool with it, so leave me alone. I can eat all the veggies and tofu that you and your buddies leave behind.

Good times.....

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I did the same thing....got angry initially.

It's kinda simple, though....

You care about animals, and other people like to eat them.

I wanted to make a difference, but realized that the whole social culture promotes meat eating. Taking a step back, and abstaining from meat is like joining a cult, or something. People categorize you as a freak. "You don't eat at Burger King, Mc Donalds, or Taco Bell?" Yeah.... I'm a freak. But I'm cool with it, so leave me alone. I can eat all the veggies and tofu that you and your buddies leave behind.

Good times.....
Same here. I was angry at first. Then I had a moment when I thought lead by example, and when they start asking questions answer them honestly I found that works for me.
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Ever since I've become a vegan, seeing people eating meat/animal products or talking about it or talking crap about veganism/making stupid assumptions makes me develop this intense anger inside of me. This didn't happen when I was a vegetarian; what IS this? Why do I act this way now? I just really don't understand the disconnect that everyone has, even though I had the same one a short while ago. I have this intense desire to want to make everyone "wake up" and see what they're doing, and it pisses me off how much nobody cares. I always thought that I wouldn't be one of those militant vegans; I detested them, even. But now I'm becoming one?and it's seriously affecting my relationships with others. How to deal with these weird feelings of intense anger? Has anyone else had this? Am I just being insensitive and not understanding or what? I even kinda feel mad at myself for all those years of being PART of the disconnect.
Welcome! It will be a long road, unfortunately. You will lose a great amount of time trying to open minds, to explore them, to understand them. A trip in which you will discover and become more convinced how the society, that you regarded until now as 'so omniscient', is in fact just a sponge, looking thick, but with a very thin structure, frustratingly malleable under pressure. Yes, THE world, the same solid rock world you believed in.
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I did the same thing....got angry initially.

It's kinda simple, though....

You care about animals, and other people like to eat them.

I wanted to make a difference, but realized that the whole social culture promotes meat eating. Taking a step back, and abstaining from meat is like joining a cult, or something. People categorize you as a freak. "You don't eat at Burger King, Mc Donalds, or Taco Bell?" Yeah.... I'm a freak. But I'm cool with it, so leave me alone. I can eat all the veggies and tofu that you and your buddies leave behind.

Good times.....
i eat taco bell lol
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