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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Sacramento, CA
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I see what's your saying, but it's only because of how ingrained the meat/dairy industry is in the modern world. How much the almighty dollar rules.
Plant based eating is by far the cheapest, and can certainly be the easiest diet for modern cultures. If you were speaking of people who live outside civilization, then for many hunting in the fall to stretch their food supply is often neccesary, as well as line fishing. For them, they often personally know in advance the older animals they would hunt, and would try to do as little harm as possible. You know who I really, really look up to are parents who have the hardest push back and still stick to their ethics and knowledge and raise vegan kids. We need to fight the system that funds the killing, not accomodate it and excuse it. |
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I agree with you, it's because of how prevalent animal products are in today's society and this capitalist system. I was speaking of people who do not have the option to cook for themselves and need to buy crap/convenience food, whether they like it or not. It's also true that the system needs to be challenged, I'm only writing because I've been hearing a lot of angry comments about how no one has any valid excuse not to be vegan, and I just disagree with that.
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I understand that this might be the case in some places, but there are vege burgers and vege food anywhere where I live. I'm sure it's the case in many places in Western countries as well.
In the world, the norm is that more meat is consumed when more people have money. Not the other way around. So I would say rarely does this situation where you are so poor and so busy that you can't be vegan. If you can't be vegan 100% be an vegetarian or try to be vegan as much as possible. I agree that some people might not be able to do even that, then sure. do what you must. But most people(90%?) who still keep eating meat just don't care. |
Im a poor person, I dont live in a health food mecca (or even around many grocery stores at all!). I have young kids, and that means I am always working.
I thought veganism would be impossible because of those reasons, but you know what, when I really started looking around I found it wasnt as hard as I had made it out to be. I can get soymilk at my local (and only) grocery store, and there is a healthfood store 40 minutes away that carries the fun stuff (vegan ice cream! Dr.bronner's soap! vegan cheese!). Most of my protiens I get locally (beans!hummus!veggie burgers!) or through amazon (tofu!tvp!protein powder!) for a low price. I dont eat fancy food. I dont eat organic (unless it is somehow cheaper than conventional produce/products)... And I enjoy some packaged foods, like cheerios and campbell's tomato soup. I have to take a road trip for a wedding, which includes staying in a hotel in another state, for a week, and dining in unfamiliar locations. But I will be bringing my vegan diet with me, and I think I will be a-ok. As for vegan home stuff, Honestly I just looked up online what cheap brands dont test on animals, and found those brands in my local dollar store. Kirk's castille soap, Sun laundry detergent, White rain shampoo/conditioner, LA looks/ELF/wet'n'wild makeup. So, long story short, I dont KNOW if everyone can be vegan, but I think it is worth a try. |
The earth has enough resources for everyones need but not their greed.
Veganism is indeed a lot easier than many people make out
![]() I took my own food with me to a wedding recently as you can't rely on others to provide you with the correct food... |
I think not everybody could be vegan, but the majority of us could be.
There are mountain people up in the north of europe where the lands are not arable and are covered with snow. They eat reindeers and use it's skin for clothes. We wouldn't be able to ask them to go vegan would we? But us in the center of civilizations, with access to abundant plant based foods, could. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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... many people have to eat whatever is accessible and convenient for them, not because they are selfish and lazy, but out of necessity. I've worked with many people who work multiple jobs from before sunrise until past midnight most days of the week. They eat what they can eat. I would never criticize them for doing so. Even to a lesser extreme, people who work long hours or have super busy schedules do not have the time to cook daily nor the money to buy quick vegan meals to have at home or bring for work.
Most people do have the privilege to eat vegan, but there is a group of people for who, being vegan would make their lives significantly more difficult or just be impossible. What are your thoughts? |
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