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#1 Old 01-08-2015, 12:32 PM
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Books on veganism that are NOT diet books

Hi Everyone,
I'm looking for book recommendations are veganism that talk about the benefits of veganism from all angles (health, environment, animal welfare, etc). I've been trying to become vegan for 7 years and I keep going back to eating dairy and eggs. I think part of the problem is that my exploration of veganism started with diet only and I got caught up in a bunch of vegan books that push fro a very specific type of veganism that is very restricted (the no-added-fat diets that McDougall and Barnard advocate) and is really only about health benefits rather than the entire philosophy of veganism. Even books that don't present themselves as vegan (like Campbell's "The China Study" and Pam Popper's books) ultimately advocate this kind of very restricted diet. I have nothing against these books, but I want veganism to be much more than just a diet (and a pretty rigid one at that) for me.

If anyone has any recommendations, that would be great.

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Eating Animals
http://www.amazon.com/Eating-Animals...Eating+Animals

The Daily Vegan Company
http://www.amazon.com/Vegans-Daily-C...egan+companion

The Dreaded Comparison
http://www.amazon.com/The-Dreaded-Co.../dp/0962449334

Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism
http://www.amazon.com/Love-Dogs-Pigs...VRM7BYG7BESKVR

The Food Revolution: How Your Diet Can Help Save Your Life and Our World
http://www.amazon.com/The-Food-Revol...VRM7BYG7BESKVR

Eat Like You Care: An Examination of the Morality of Eating Animals
http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Like-You-C...KTC8393MZKQ4DC

Eating Animals, the top of the list, is really, really, a GREAT book.

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"Sistah Vegan: Food, Identity, Health, and Society: Black Female Vegans Speak"
http://www.amazon.com/Sistah-Vegan-I.../dp/1590561457

"The Sexual Politics of Meat: A Feminist-vegetarian Critical Theory"
http://www.amazon.com/The-Sexual-Pol.../dp/1441173285

"Introduction to Animal Rights: Your Child or the Dog?" (abolitionist philosophy on veganism)
http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-A.../dp/1566396921

"The Dominion of Love: Animal Rights According to the Bible"
http://www.amazon.com/Dominion-Love-...minion+of+love

"Animal Liberation: The Definitive Classic of the Animal Movement" (Utilitarian philosophy of veganism)
http://www.amazon.com/Animal-Liberat...n+peter+singer

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_The Vegan Sourcebook_ is my favorite not-a-health-guide vegan book.
It's also out of print . Amazon has a Kindle version, or you can browse a partial preview here. There's like 80 available used on Amazon, too.
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Thank you for the suggestions. Some of these might be a bit too political for my taste (I'm more into the ethical part and less the political part), but I bought the Eating Animals for my iPad. I also forgot that I had The Vegan Sourcebook on my bookshelf (I rarely read print books anymore, so I forget what I have) but I dusted it off and will read it. So I'm glad someone reminded me of it :-).

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Let me know what you think of Eating Animals. I found it to be one of the best books on the subject I have read -- and I have read a lot.
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"Peaceable Kingdom: The Journey Home"
http://www.peaceablekingdomfilm.org/

This is not actually a book but a documentary told on a personal level by former farmers turned animal rescuers. What is so refreshing is that these people are not models, not doctors, not diet or health or fitness gurus, not movie stars (the only famous person featured in it is Howard Lyman, a former cattle rancher turned animal activist). They are not after any particular vegan diet. They are just average ordinary people touched by the plight of animals, especially farmed animals, and they share their experiences. It is a very powerful movie. And it is ALL about ethics. There are a few minor graphic scenes but for the most part the movie is more uplifting than anything else and it is far more mellow than other movies like Earthlings. Anyway I just thought I would mention it in case you are interested. A few of the people on there were vegetarians for a while and raised goats and chickens but eventually became totally vegan.
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John Robbins--the heir of the Baskin and Robbins (ice cream) fortune.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...ns%2Caps%2C347
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http://www.amazon.com/Bloodless-Revo...ess+revolution

Bloodless Revolution- Tristam Stewart
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Being Vegan by Joanne Stepaniak. link
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The Pulitzer Prize nominated book "Diet for a New America", by John Robbins, discusses the ethical, health, and environment aspects of livestock raising. For many of us who became vegans in the early 1990s, Mr. Robbins was a powerful inspiration.


John Robbins is different from other vegan diet advocates, because he never casts guilt or shame at people who eat meat. Many videos of him can be found in YouTube.
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Being Vegan by Joanne Stepaniak. link
Just ordered this one on amazon. I too wanted a book that's not a recipe book but more on the vegan lifestyle
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I posted this a long time ago but wanted to bump it up again since, like an idiot, I posted the same question in a new thread this weekend in the Transitioning To Vegan forum :-(. So hopefully this will help other vegans too.

Great suggestions here!

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Eating Animals
http://www.amazon.com/Eating-Animals...Eating+Animals

The Daily Vegan Company
http://www.amazon.com/Vegans-Daily-C...egan+companion

The Dreaded Comparison
http://www.amazon.com/The-Dreaded-Co.../dp/0962449334

Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism
http://www.amazon.com/Love-Dogs-Pigs...VRM7BYG7BESKVR

The Food Revolution: How Your Diet Can Help Save Your Life and Our World
http://www.amazon.com/The-Food-Revol...VRM7BYG7BESKVR

Eat Like You Care: An Examination of the Morality of Eating Animals
http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Like-You-C...KTC8393MZKQ4DC

Eating Animals, the top of the list, is really, really, a GREAT book.
I second the recommendation for Eating Animals. Beautiful book.
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I posted this a long time ago but wanted to bump it up again since, like an idiot, I posted the same question in a new thread this weekend in the Transitioning To Vegan forum :-(. So hopefully this will help other vegans too.

Great suggestions here!

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Oh, I'm glad you bumped this, great topic! Don't worry about starting another thread, it is hard to search in the many, many threads here!! When this occurs what usually happens is the Mods just combine the threads.

I love all vegan cookbooks, especially the wordy ones with stories. Isa Chandra writes great ones.
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I posted this a long time ago but wanted to bump it up again since, like an idiot, I posted the same question in a new thread this weekend in the Transitioning To Vegan forum :-(. So hopefully this will help other vegans too.

Great suggestions here!

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Don't feel bad! I don't think any of us can remember everything we post. Thanks for bumping up this thread. It's a great resource for others too!
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I like the "30 Day Vegan Challenge" by Colleen Patrick Goudreau and "Living the Farm Sanctuary Life" by Gene Baur. Both contain recipes also. The Gene Baur one has lots of pictures of farm animals; Colleen's has lots of pictures of food.
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A friend of mine told me to not read "Eating Animals" because the author himself is not vegan and also supports meat slaughter. Is that a wrong interpretation of the author? Thank you!
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A friend of mine told me to not read "Eating Animals" because the author himself is not vegan and also supports meat slaughter. Is that a wrong interpretation of the author? Thank you!
I don't think that he is vegan, no, but his book in no way supports slaughter (or the dairy and egg industries.) It is a scathing expose and gorgeously written. You would be missing out if you avoided it simply because the author might not be vegan.
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I don't think that he is vegan, no, but his book in no way supports slaughter (or the dairy and egg industries.) It is a scathing expose and gorgeously written. You would be missing out if you avoided it simply because the author might not be vegan.
I asked my friend and he sent me this video where the author tells viewers to buy more responsible meat.


But was this video posted before he wrote his book or afterwards?
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I asked my friend and he sent me this video where the author tells viewers to buy more responsible meat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvgQIQuX0lQ

But was this video posted before he wrote his book or afterwards?
I genuinely have no idea. I don't care much about artists' personal lives, really-- I just take their work at face value, and that book is wonderful.
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I asked my friend and he sent me this video where the author tells viewers to buy more responsible meat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvgQIQuX0lQ

But was this video posted before he wrote his book or afterwards?
I don't really think that is relevant. The book is, as no whey perfectly put, beautiful. It addresses the intense social norms around food in our culture as well as a deep and meaningful look into the lives - human and animal - that animal agriculture affects. I think he mentioned in the book that he is vegetarian and strives to be the best person he can, and that's hard. The vegan movement isn't about hating non-level 5 vegans, it's able supporting everything being the best person they can possibly be, for all beings in this planet.

Richard Atenburogh (yes I know I spelled that song) was an omni, but that didn't make his naturalist work less amazing or beautiful. Hemingway was an avid hunter of big game, but that doesn't make his work less meaningful per beautiful to one's soul.

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I asked my friend and he sent me this video where the author tells viewers to buy more responsible meat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvgQIQuX0lQ

But was this video posted before he wrote his book or afterwards?

Maybe he needed money.
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My usual answer: I have never heard a convincing reason to eat meat.
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I remember reading that the author ate vegan for a time, then began eating "responsible meat" or some such nonsense.

(Is that a leather jacket in the video? Sigh.)

The book is fantastic. No ifs ands or buts.
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"The PETA Practical Guide to Animal Rights" by Ingrid Newkirk

This book turned me vegan, and most of it is written very eloquently. However, there are some spots that drag it down by containing questionable information or logical fallacies. (At one point the author endorses a false link between milk and Autism.) One of its stronger points is the wealth of personal, evocative animal stories.

"Pigs Can't Swim" by Helen Peppe

The memoir of an animal lover who grew up on a farm. Very good.

"Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism" by Melanie Joy

One of my absolute favorites: Sound research, moving accounts, and thought-provoking points from start to finish. This book focuses on the social and psychological factors that normalize animal agriculture. It exposes the logically inconsistent mindset that makes it okay to eat some animals and not others. The author does refer to meat eating most of the time (she says "vegetarian" instead of "vegan" to avoid alienating readers), but she also exposes the cruelty inherent in the egg and dairy industries.

Good luck with your journey!
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I remember reading that the author ate vegan for a time, then began eating "responsible meat" or some such nonsense.

(Is that a leather jacket in the video? Sigh.)

The book is fantastic. No ifs ands or buts.


He says that there's no need to eat meat, thus he feels it's wrong and he can't make peace with himself even by eating animals from family farms. Also he points out that even these animals go through *some* unnecessary violence and that this type of farming could never meet our current consumption. But he also says that he doesn't think the world's gonna turn vegetarian or vegan any time soon, so we'd at least support family farms because if we don't they will be taken over by big corporations, as they are now.



It's the only book I've read on the matter. And, consequently, the only book I've read in english. I liked his sense of humor and how he let many people speak for themselves.
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