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JasonV3g4n 04-01-2014 04:47 AM

I have been vegan for two and half years now and have been working for a major UK supermarket for the past 9.  However now I feel I can no longer morally work for them.  When I think about the fact I am working for a company that essentially kills and uses animals for profit it makes me feel sick.  I love the business ethic of this company but I hate that I am pretty much condoning this behaviour and profiting from animal suffering, yet at the same time I have to make a living.  Has anyone had any similar experiences?  Or is there any advice you would give me?

 

Thanks for reading :) 


yurak 04-01-2014 03:35 PM

I understand the dilemma, because I was still in catering when I started to transition. I reached a point in my head where I knew I didn't want to cook or be part of animal production.
I was lucky, because I was able to get a job for an office company within a year of transitioning to veg*nism.

Joe 04-01-2014 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonV3g4n View Post

I have been vegan for two and half years now and have been working for a major UK supermarket for the past 9.  However now I feel I can no longer morally work for them.  When I think about the fact I am working for a company that essentially kills and uses animals for profit it makes me feel sick.  I love the business ethic of this company but I hate that I am pretty much condoning this behaviour and profiting from animal suffering, yet at the same time I have to make a living.  Has anyone had any similar experiences?  Or is there any advice you would give me?

Thanks for reading smiley.gif  

With all due respect to you, I think you need to survey your fellow vegans and vegetarians more extensively about what they actually do for a living. Many work in the food service industries. I don't see anything wrong with this. Being an employed vegan is better than being an unemployed vegan IMO.

Jewellee 04-01-2014 07:02 PM

I've been in a similar situation but I wasn't in the food industry. I was in the gaming industry and I worked at a casino. after an extended amount of time working there I saw all the damages that gambling can do to a person. that was when I didn't want to work for the company anymore and I wanted to change to get out of the industry.

so I can understand your stance on your moral decision. I think if its giving you a conscience about it then I think that it's good for you to change.

logic 04-01-2014 11:38 PM

I don't think you should bad about working for a grocery store. While its true that grocery stores are profiting off the killing of animals, etc that isn't he primary function of the grocery store. A grocery store is there to supply the community with the food products they demand, as such, its really the demand for meat products that is responsible for the killing, etc rather than the grocery store itself. If everyone in your community decided to eat vegetarian tomorrow the meat section of the grocery store would vanish.

On the other hand working for Tyson would be, I imagine, a big conflict.

yurak 04-02-2014 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by logic View Post

I don't think you should bad about working for a grocery store. While its true that grocery stores are profiting off the killing of animals, etc that isn't he primary function of the grocery store. A grocery store is there to supply the community with the food products they demand, as such, its really the demand for meat products that is responsible for the killing, etc rather than the grocery store itself. If everyone in your community decided to eat vegetarian tomorrow the meat section of the grocery store would vanish.

I like the thought direction

kallyho 04-02-2014 11:27 AM

I think you should aim for a new direction. But what is the point of being unemployed. Think carefully about what you can do instead and head that way, get the training etc.

 

But

 

Being in the grocery store business perhaps you can use your influence. Can you not work in produce or something?


vegandroid 04-14-2014 09:43 AM

I have a similar dilemma: 
I'm interested in a job at a company but they do the thing where you can offer an animal in the name of someone that will be sent to people in need for milk/slaughter. As a vegan, I'm opposed to such slavery (I'd rather send vegan produce).

This isn't the main thing the company does, and a lot of their work is --seemingly-- commendable, but should I apply? I know that almost all companies exploit animals in one way or another, but this seems like direct exploitation.

I'd appreciate thoughts on this.

Thanks


vegandroid 04-17-2014 05:56 AM

Sorry for the bump, I was wondering whether anyone had any comments on my previous post. :)


chai 04-17-2014 06:31 AM

To me, veganism is a moral choice. It's a choice to not set ourselves above other beings. It's a choice to create a more sustainable future. To me, it's about survival. The people your company would be sending this to would be in need - to them those animals would be about survival. There is nothing (that I know of) that you could send (theoretically) that would give the same amount of calories over the same (or longer, of course) amount of time that would be vegan. It's immoral to require someone to be on a vegan diet if they cannot sustain themselves on it, so for me I'd have no moral problems with it. Not everyone is in a place where they can make a choice for what to survive on, and just as I want to do my part in helping goats, chickens, whales and any other animal in the world, I want to work to help humans survive as well. What their needs are, is what I work most to give them. Sometimes that is animal products, sometimes it's vegan, sometimes it's something entirely different. In the end, to me veganism about surviving in a moral way, and so this would fall in the category for me of just that: surviving in the best way with the options they have.

 

Those are my personal beliefs though, and if you are truly uncomfortable it may be time for you to make a different choice for your work.


vegandroid 04-23-2014 02:38 AM

Thanks for your reply.

I understand your point of view on survival and pragmatism. I just wonder, from a non-speciesist point of view, how the lives of such animals can be reduced to that of a mere commodity.

Like most things, it's a personal belief, but I do feel uncomfortable about it.

I guess I still haven't solved this issue for myself yet.

Out of interest, what would be the biggest issue with sending vegan foods?


Vegan Dave 04-23-2014 02:54 PM

Jason -

 

Live the life you want to live. :sunny:

 

Do what lets you sleep well at night.  :sunny:

 

Everything else will work itself out.  :sunny:

 

 

GOOD LUCK!!!!  :up:


Poppy 04-23-2014 07:04 PM

Jason, while you're employed at the grocery, why don't you look around for another job - maybe at a vegan restaurant or at a store which does not sell food. It might be better for your state of mind to find something else.


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