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sam alshebany 08-23-2013 05:38 AM

now guys many many vegan products contain palm oil what to do about that and some stuff are actually convenient and easy to use just fry put in a bun and eat if you don't have any time

 

wouldn't it be enough if the company said that they use sustainable palm oil?


mangolover 08-23-2013 11:10 PM

I don't use any earth balance and I always check for Palm oil on an ingredients list.I have never had a problem with finding things Palm oil free.Also are you talking about veggie burgers? You can just make a ton of veggie burgers then freeze and heat when you want one.smiley.gif

Johnny87 08-27-2013 09:02 PM

It depends on whether its palm oil (derived from the flesh of palm fruit) or palm kernel oil (derived from the kernels of the fruit). If you're going to cook with an oil you want it to be the highest percentage of saturated fat, which makes it stable at high temperatures. Palm oil is 41% saturated fat, which is too low for cooking. But palm kernel oil is 81% saturated fat, and safe for cooking. FYI coconut oil is 86% saturated fat and also good for vegan cooking. 

 

Just make sure it isn't processed and partially hydrogenated, which removes omega-3 and makes it a dangerous transfat.


sam alshebany 08-28-2013 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny87 View Post

It depends on whether its palm oil (derived from the flesh of palm fruit) or palm kernel oil (derived from the kernels of the fruit). If you're going to cook with an oil you want it to be the highest percentage of saturated fat, which makes it stable at high temperatures. Palm oil is 41% saturated fat, which is too low for cooking. But palm kernel oil is 81% saturated fat, and safe for cooking. FYI coconut oil is 86% saturated fat and also good for vegan cooking. 

 

Just make sure it isn't processed and partially hydrogenated, which removes omega-3 and makes it a dangerous transfat.

Thank you bt actually i am talking about that palm oil is killing the orangutans and destroying their homes and it's in a lot of vegan foods so what to do about that 

 

and if organic palm oil is from the same place


Siv 08-28-2013 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sam alshebany View Post

Thank you bt actually i am talking about that palm oil is killing the orangutans and destroying their homes and it's in a lot of vegan foods so what to do about that 

 

and if organic palm oil is from the same place

 

Organic means they don't use artificial fertilizers and pesticides (i.e. those that come from a chemical plant). Organic fertilizers can be made from fish meal and other animal products. And the reason they clear rain forests to plant the palm oil is because the soil is already very fertile so requires little or no additional fertilization. Organic is a useless label as far as use of animals is concerned - using animals as fertilizer is almost the epitome of organic.

 

I know Malaysia and Indonesia are large palm oil producers and I have only seen plantations that have replaced primary or secondary forest. I doubt that any palm oil is "orangutan" safe. Not to mention all the other creatures that lived in those forests.

 

If you're serious about this, then avoid all palm oil products. There is canola oil, sunflower oil, rape seed oil and so many others that it's not like you don't have a choice.



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