Oh wow 11 pages O.o
Well I can see both sides of the argument. I'm not a perfect vegan either. I wear contact lenses and my moisturizer has honey in it. I don't think I would ever wear leather or anything like that if I had a choice. Who knows though, I'll be joining the peace corps if all goes well in a couple years and I doubt I'll be able to maintain a vegan lifestyle in a third world country (preferably a Spanish speaking one) but I'm gonna try. I guess it could be argued that I'm just a strict vegetarian, but eh. I never lie to anyone about it. I also make sure people get that the goal is to be as vegan as possible. I'm not religious at all (see my quote lol) but this reminds me of all the evangelicals I went to school with who told people that god doesn't approve of them because they aren't real Christians. Not saying that I disagree or agree with that, but it most definitely is repulsive and drives people away from hearing your underlying point, or from understanding who you are instead of focusing on how much you like to condemn people.*
I still understand nashini's point. Using animal products is in contradiction to vegan ideology. Ideology is not always in line with reality, though, and I see veganism as something that can exist in reality and not just a fantasy that most people can't reach ever because of money or culture or whatever. Like any ideology, there will be deviating patterns of thought beneath the overall umbrella. This is what happens when more people start jumping on board to any philosophy, ideology, whatever.*
And I highly doubt nashini is a perfect vegan. There are a number of things that you can't escape in our society, unless you have tons of cash just sitting around. Even then, things like medicine and medical treatments, etc. Are things you have no control over. When held under the microscope, very few people living in the mainstream bulk of our society can be said to live a *100% vegan lifestyle.
Also, nashini's posts are unhelpful for more than just the fact that he or she is not "cutting anyone any slack." I actually understand that part, to an extent. My problem is this: all I hear is *****ing, no offense. When someone says they can't find affordable resources and so they resort to using animal products, I think part of being a "good vegan", if you will, is reaching out and helping people. making it sound as if other peoples struggles are not valid, yet failing to present any information or resources out there to show that they do have options, is not helping anyone on their vegan journey. And it definitely doesn't represent our cause well. You're just *****ing at people, finding whatever justifications of conviction you can. It kind of reminds me of people who scope out others weaknesses and poke for the sake of pointing out their flaws, instead of giving constructive criticism, which involves advice and helping others. *That's just a bit pathetic, in my opinion. :/*
**"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?"**