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#1 Old 08-03-2011, 07:40 PM
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My program is visiting a factory farm in a few months to show the students where most of the meat in the grocer comes from.

If the purpose was educational, would you go? Or would you request to be excluded from this particular trip of the program?
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#2 Old 08-03-2011, 07:42 PM
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I wouldn't go. I already know it, i don't want to see it closer. but i am glad that some people will go
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Your program? Are you training to become a vet or something? Sounds like an unusual field trip.

I myself definitely wouldn't go, I'd just cry the whole time. And I've already seen enough video footage to last me a lifetime.

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#4 Old 08-03-2011, 07:52 PM
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I would go.

A slaughter house would be even more interesting to watch peoples reactions to though.

Watching the guts of something the size of a cow fall out is more than most people can stomach and the sight is far easier to stomach than is the accompanying stink.
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Your program? Are you training to become a vet or something? Sounds like an unusual field trip.

I myself definitely wouldn't go, I'd just cry the whole time. And I've already seen enough video footage to last me a lifetime.

It's a Masters program in Environmental Education.

I already know I will be disheartened the entire time, both from the pain of the animals and from the attitudes of the people around me. This one guy overheard a few of us talking about the trip and he kept saying how cool it sounded - he isn't going and isn't a part of the program, but it was still one of those shake-your-head kind of moments.
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I might go. I'm the kind of person that remembers and is most affected by experiences, not just videos. Seeing live farm animals makes me want to cry because I realize how cute they are, I think going to factory farms would be emotional, but it would definitely keep me from thinking about straying from veganism and keep me passionate and committed to it. I feel really awful about myself sometimes because sometimes I feel like I need to make myself feel compassion. I'll just feel disconnected from everything and I just feel really disgusting and cold-hearted, but if I actually experienced death I know I'd feel something. When I watch a video, it's like I have to imagine that this is really real and then I feel really awful, because it's a video and it's just so easy to just pretend it's not real. And I feel really bad admitting to all that, but it's just the way I feel sometimes, very desensitized, I guess.
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I wouldn't go. You already know about it. You don't need to see it IRL.
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I would go.

A slaughter house would be even more interesting to watch peoples reactions to though.

Watching the guts of something the size of a cow fall out is more than most people can stomach and the sight is far easier to stomach than is the accompanying stink.

thats actually true. when i was 14 or so my class had a trip to salami factory. 90% of the class was vegetarian for a week or 2. this was actually the first time the thought of it came to me. of course it took many more years before it actually happened, but i wonder how it would affect more adult people, especially the ones who are interested in environment and studying it
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I'd go. I'd hate every minute of it, but I'd go.
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How could one go and not try to make off with some of the animals to save them
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I would only go if it meant someone else going and experiencing the horror who might change their ways.

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How could one go and not try to make off with some of the animals to save them

If I saw an animal that was somehow free or where I could get to them, I would do this.
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i would want to go, but i don't think i actually would. i hate watching someone step on a spider. i can't imagine my senses being assaulted by the happenings of a factory farm and being completely helpless. it's easy to feel like being vegan helps animals, but to have in your face proof that there are still millions of animals being slaughtered all the time so people can eat their flesh would totally depress me.
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I should note that, as far as I know, we are planned to go to a dairy factory farm with around 40,000 cows in constant milking rotation.
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I should note that, as far as I know, we are planned to go to a dairy factory farm with around 40,000 cows in constant milking rotation.

I'd be tempted to f*** something up so it throws the farm all off.
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This. And destroy the equipment.
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This. And destroy the equipment.

Inconspicuously, though. I'd do something that would annoy them, make it harder for them, but not cause any real damage that I could get in trouble for. Stick a quarter in a gear here and there and pretend I didn't know what happened.

Too bad it's not that easy
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I'm already vegan, so I would not go. I think and worry enough as it is. I don't need more visual nightmares.
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thats actually true. when i was 14 or so my class had a trip to salami factory.

That's different..we went to water parks.

OP: No I wouldn't go. I wouldn't be able to handle it.
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Encouraging criminal activity is probably the wrong thing to do here.

I doubt they are going to show you the worst parts of the facility. Is this a feed lot or a slaughter house? I wouldn't want to go to either, but that may influence your choice. It seems like a strange field trip for an environmental program. Feed lots and their environmental impact can be studied in the classroom and by independent review of published studies. You won't see anything but the surface impact by visiting one.

Good luck. Sorry you have to make this choice.
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There is no way I would go, I can't stand there and watch someone kill or abuse an animal like that. I think it's good that others are going, especially non-vegans.
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Heck yes, but only if I could bring a camera. I'd document the heck out of it, and the next time someone askes, well how do YOU know the animals are raised that way, I'd say, "Just look!"
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Part of me would be completely disgusted by the idea of seeing these animals suffer up close and in person, and that part of me probably wouldn't go. However, I feel like the experience would strengthen my resolve to make a positive difference that much more. It could also lead to an opportunity to share my views on veganism with others on the trip. Maybe, considering that everything would be right there for them to see, they'd be more willing to keep an open mind and consider it seriously.

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I wouldn't go.
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You won't see the worst parts of the dairy farm on the trip. You won't see calves removed from their mothers by force within days of birth, or witness them frantically calling for each other. You won't see veal crates, etc.

Similarly sometimes national primate vivisection centers have tours. People only see the sanitized version.
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Mothers don't have be moaning the loss of their calves to appear unhappy. I'm sure even the spit-shined version of these places that they offer for public viewing are still pretty sad. The fact that I would be viewing confined animals that have no bright future would be enough to send me into a funk, even though the average omni probably wouldn't be affected by it in that way.

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I couldn't go. Just couldn't do it.

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I would go. It's just more ammunition next time someone challenges your beliefs to be able to say you've actually been to a real farm. Likely, the other person won't have.
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#30 Old 08-04-2011, 12:26 PM
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It would be very difficult for me to go, but I would for the reason Dormouse mentioned... ammunition for later discussions. It will most likely be an edited-for-TV style of tour, but there should still be enough evidence of the truth behind the facade if you look for it.
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