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#151 Old 11-04-2015, 11:19 AM
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52.8% Right, 2.8% Liberal

"Right-liberalism (Libertarianism): Individuals in this quadrant seek to uphold liberty as the primary political good in all respects. They tend to see themselves as staunch supporters of both personal and economic freedom and are deeply skeptical of collective plans and goals, stressing instead the principle of voluntary association and the individual’s capacity to make his own judgments. They typically see less of a role for the state than individuals in the other three quadrants, believing instead in the spontaneous social order of the market."
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#152 Old 11-04-2015, 11:27 AM
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Progressive, left-leaning Socialist. With that said, I feel that a lot of times in vegan circles it's expected that one will be a liberal, so I can see where this would be very isolating for more conservative people, politically speaking, who also happen to embrace animal activism. I find this happens a lot in atheist groups as well. While American atheists do seem to trend on the liberal side of the political spectrum, there are conservative atheists who express frustration over how their unique voices and experiences tend to be droned out by the assumption that everyone in this group or that group follows a prescribed political ideology.
I am fairly conservative on a lot of issues (like immigration, gun rights, welfare, healthcare ext...) but I am also fairly liberal about other things (gay marriage, pro-choice, animal rights, environment ext...). I do find that holding views that don't totally swing one way or the other does make it difficult for me to get along with just about everyone. My crazy conservative family thinks I'm a tree-hugging liberal and my far left liberal in-laws think I'm a oppressive conservative. I certainly find a lot of my views don't align with other vegans, and I can't stand right wingers. Damn my inability to conform!
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#153 Old 11-05-2015, 04:21 PM
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You should see the pile-ons here when anyone expresses a conservative view.
I find that unfortunate. While I have trouble relating to more conservative viewpoints, I'm not militant in my own. Yes, I do believe strongly about certain things, but not to the point where I would feel compelled to shame someone else for believing differently. Most of the time you aren't going to change someone's mind. If someone asks me for my opinion, I'll share it, but I've seen a lot of relationships broken up by fights over politics and religion. It's one of the reasons no one in my family (except for my husband) or circle of friends knows I'm an atheist. It's too risky to open that up for discussion.
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#154 Old 11-05-2015, 07:32 PM
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I would say to the left, I'm not really a fan of the liberal/conservative black and white labelling at all though.

I'd say I lean towards Communism out of all the political parties, seems the most fair to me.
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Christian vegans may be more conservative, but I'd guess most vegans are probably left or libertarian.

I'm kind of a left-libertarian. I feel torn about a lot of things. Like I think the United Nations is necessary, but I think the mainstream left is out of control in more than one country. I think the entire population of Sweden may be clinically insane, and my hopes for the future of Germany aren't great.

I used to get really political on one forum, and it's fascinating how often I was accused of being some far right conservative klan member by mainstream lefties on that particular site...the people just seem brainwashed and paranoid to me, like you can't approach any one issue differently without them presuming you're either a white supremacist or a fan of Pat Robertson.

Most people who know me realize much of what I believe is actually quite left, I was formerly a Democrat and now am registered as Green Party. My political interests revolve around saving the planet as well as serving God...and I do have strong opinions about people's rights to their own cultural history, which is a big chunk of what makes me libertarian - not a fascist*eye roll*
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Most would consider my views to be far left, but I hope they become mainstream in my lifetime.




I'd definitely like to see the far right disappear completely, and by that I mean far right in terms of religion/social values. Those who want to impose their values on the rest of us. There's plenty of room for people who believe almost anything, so long as they respect others' rights and freedoms.

In the States at least, it seems like all there is is far right and center, at least economically speaking. There's no real left anymore. Everyone's afraid of the word socialism.
The only reason I hate the far right is because of neoconservative corporate capitalism. I have no issues at all with paleoconservatives.

I think it would behoove educated people to ponder the fact that the far left also pushes their values on other people, and in the EU they're taking it too far, and are just asking for a backlash.
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Progressive, left-leaning Socialist. With that said, I feel that a lot of times in vegan circles it's expected that one will be a liberal, so I can see where this would be very isolating for more conservative people, politically speaking, who also happen to embrace animal activism. I find this happens a lot in atheist groups as well. While American atheists do seem to trend on the liberal side of the political spectrum, there are conservative atheists who express frustration over how their unique voices and experiences tend to be droned out by the assumption that everyone in this group or that group follows a prescribed political ideology.
I think it's very unfortunate when people presume atheists will be secular humanists, or that vegans will be traditional liberals, or that all feminists believe in abortion, or that environmental concerns is even a political issue that belongs to either side. I used to really love politics and now I mostly love history and my own vision, because everything has become so black and white, it just makes me hate people.
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That just means hes so far right he sees Bush as being left, which means hes really far right.


He'd pretty much have to be a fascist then, because it's absurd to even say Obama is far left, when he's quite obviously centrist, Obamas involvement with TPP is utterly neoconservative and he actually strikes me as a pretty greedy person. In terms of global politics Obama would actually be slightly right wing.
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AFAIK he was actively hostile to vegetarianism. A snippet from this page that speaks to this:


Socialism and organized vegetarianism were both players in the universe of 19th century reform and radicalism. The interactions between the various movements really defy simple explanations. Many vegetarians were socialists despite Marx and Engles' low opinion of vegetarianism. The humane movement of the time was often frustratingly classist, yet working class people played a huge role in the anti-vivisection Brown Dog Riots. Vegetarianism even made inroads with the working class thanks largely to the writings of Percy Shelley. One thing that often trips up modern folks looking at this history is a failure to realize/acknowledge that animal protection, antivivisectionism, and vegetarianism were SEPERATE movements with complex relationships. To an extent they still are, no matter how much we wish otherwise.

Oh my god... I hate Marx now. It's good to know how much of a hypocrite he seems to me before I could've researched him more. I think I would agree with Percy Shelley's example if my interpretation is correct in saying that she was not only Socialist, but humane overall...
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After reading some communist works, I have to conclude that even though I may not be an Orthodox Marxist, I think that the closest label to my beliefs is that of Marxist-Leninism. But that's probably besides the point. Is there anything I can do for communism as a teenager?
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After reading some communist works, I have to conclude that even though I may not be an Orthodox Marxist, I think that the closest label to my beliefs is that of Marxist-Leninism. But that's probably besides the point. Is there anything I can do for communism as a teenager?

It might be useful to study its successes and its failures. As with any political system, it's only as good as the people running it.
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In Australia the right wing people belong to or vote for the Liberal Party and are conservatives.
Labor is the left.
The Country Party (in coalition with the Liberals) are super conservative verging on fascist.
The Greens (name is self explanatory) sold out to the Liberals.

I voted for the Animal Rights party in the Senate.

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Good point, David3. My phone doesn't allow me to make quotations, so this was towards your last comment.
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