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#1 Old 08-19-2009, 08:51 PM
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Does anyone know a good brand that doesn't have whey and casein in it that isn't outrageously priced for a tiny bit?



We also want to use it for cooking, so we need quite a bit.
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#2 Old 08-19-2009, 08:55 PM
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Not sure where you live, but I use Smart Balance, which I'd assume is available all over the US. They make a few varieties, not all of which are vegan, so be sure to look for the one that prominently says it's vegan on the container.



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Look around for 'lactose free' margarine: the ones I've seen don't usually have any milk products in them. They may use vitamin D3 (animal derived) though. I'm not sure where you stand on that issue.
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I have actually found some cheap store brand margarine that is "accidentally" vegan. Just read the labels CAREFULLY! Smart Balance Light is my first choice but is more expensive.

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This thread made me learn margarine isn't vegan.



I hate assuming things and not buying my own groceries. :\\



I just looked it up though.. if you can shop at whole foods earth balance is vegan.
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I buy Earth Balance and find it to be great!

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We live in Canada and we don't have a "whole foods".



The vegan margarine we found was about $6.50+tax....in Canada....for like 250mL

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I'm in US and buy Smart Balance Light. It's expensive, but it's good stuff.



I hear that Nucoa in the tub is also vegan but I can only find the sticks (which aren't vegan at all ).
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For those who don't bake much, just so you know - Smart Balance has WATER added so it will NOT work for many baked goods. (It will "work" but the texture, and final outcome will be greatly different and not nearly as good.)



Earth Balance is good, but, as you said, expensive.



Some other brands are Soy Garden, Spectrum and Willow Run, but you'll have to look in a Health Food store.



The CHEAPEST vegan margarine I know of is NUCOA. Gold tub and in the "cheaper" stores or parts of the shelf.
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We live in Canada and we don't have a "whole foods".



The vegan margarine we found was about $6.50+tax....in Canada....for like 250mL



i dunno where in canada you are, but i've seen earth balance in various places (normal supermarkets included) in ontario and newbrunswick, and got it for as low as $4 for a 425g tub sometimes, which admittedly isn't cheap, but its doable.



and.... there is also a $1 off e-coupon for any earth balance product on http://www.thehealthyshopper.ca ( amongst other fab coupons!) that you can print off to your hearts content and use on every purchase you make until the end of march 2010- you just gotta sign up for a free account, and if you set it right you don't get any email stuff from them.
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nucoa is the cheapest and works great for baking.
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I can only find the sticks (which aren't vegan at all ).



Why are they not vegan? I don't use them, I use the tub, but my Mom buys the sticks for me 'cause it's all she can find when I'm at her place...
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Seems the last time I checked (quite a long while ago), they either weren't vegan or they had something in them that made me put them back. I've just somehow figured they weren't vegan since that's usually what makes me put things back.
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Seems the last time I checked (quite a long while ago), they either weren't vegan or they had something in them that made me put them back. I've just somehow figured they weren't vegan since that's usually what makes me put things back.



The Nucoa cubes DO have Transfat/hydrogenated oils but as far as I can tell, they are vegan. That's the reason I don't use them (except at my Mom's) but if there's a trace ingredient, I wouldn't know what it is, I'm not the "trace-ingredient police" at ALL!!
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I'm not the "trace-ingredient police" at ALL!!



I'm not either. That's a field that's far to flooded without my help.



Thanks for the info about NUCOA. I still can't find it in my stores (I looked today), but at least I know it's truly vegan.
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There's only one place around here that I know of that has the "tubs"... a really small, run-down-about-to-close Albertsons. I'll be bummed if they close, it's the only place that'll stock it that I've found... The "Rainbow Store" (Grocery Outlet) has it sporadically though...
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For those who don't bake much, just so you know - Smart Balance has WATER added so it will NOT work for many baked goods. (It will "work" but the texture, and final outcome will be greatly different and not nearly as good.)



Earth Balance is good, but, as you said, expensive.



Some other brands are Soy Garden, Spectrum and Willow Run, but you'll have to look in a Health Food store.



The CHEAPEST vegan margarine I know of is NUCOA. Gold tub and in the "cheaper" stores or parts of the shelf.



They sell Willow Run at the regular grocery store here but it has trans fats :\\ I thought it might be a cheaper alternative to EB when baking, but I'd rather pay more and not have trans-fats. They don't sell Nucoa around these parts.

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I like Earth Balance. It's great for baking, and can be found at Sobey's (just a regular grocery store) or at health food stores. I'm in Ontario, Canada.
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We live in Canada and we don't have a "whole foods".



The vegan margarine we found was about $6.50+tax....in Canada....for like 250mL





I'm from Canada, too. There are two Whole Foods near where I live - one in Oakville, Ontario and one in Toronto.

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Not sure where you live, but I use Smart Balance, which I'd assume is available all over the US. They make a few varieties, not all of which are vegan, so be sure to look for the one that prominently says it's vegan on the container.



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Smart Balance has EDTA in it, unless you are getting a different one but all the ones I"ve seen do.

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I would suggest Earth Balance, or Soy Garden...you should be able to find it at your local natural food store.

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They sell Willow Run at the regular grocery store here but it has trans fats :\\ I thought it might be a cheaper alternative to EB when baking, but I'd rather pay more and not have trans-fats. They don't sell Nucoa around these parts.



just to clarify info about Nucoa



* 100% vegan



* round tub does NOT have trans fats



* sticks in a box do have trans fats



* great price
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Smart Balance has EDTA in it, unless you are getting a different one but all the ones I"ve seen do.



Just to be clear (I'm still a baby vegan), we're concerned about EDTA because it's a epically terrifying chemical, not for animal-derivative reasons, right?
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Just to be clear (I'm still a baby vegan), we're concerned about EDTA because it's a epically terrifying chemical, not for animal-derivative reasons, right?



This is what I know: EDTA is a preservative, but it's approved by the FDA and USDA and found in many foods, including most baby formulas. It functions by binding to metal contaminants that cause food to breakdown or decompose, so it keeps food from going bad too quickly.

It is also recommended by the American Heart Association for removing toxic metals from the body and for use in heart disease treatment, lead and digitalis poisoning and metal removal from soil.



This is all I found with a Google search? \\/ \\/

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We live in Canada and we don't have a "whole foods".



I have one 5 mins drive away from me (I'm in BC)...but I have noticed food costs more here than other provinces.
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This is what I know: EDTA is a preservative, but it's approved by the FDA and USDA and found in many foods, including most baby formulas. It functions by binding to metal contaminants that cause food to breakdown or decompose, so it keeps food from going bad too quickly.

It is also recommended by the American Heart Association for removing toxic metals from the body and for use in heart disease treatment, lead and digitalis poisoning and metal removal from soil.



This is all I found with a Google search? \\/ \\/



Ah, thanks... I googled too and saw scary-looking things like "Today, EDTA is mainly synthesised from ethylenediamine (1,2-diaminoethane), formaldehyde (methanal), and sodium cyanide."



But I didn't know if there were animal derivatives in it. I'm guessing not and... It's just that it's a chemical and that's why Doktormartini gave it an unhappy face?
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Thanks for all the input, I'll try and see what my local food store has next time I shop. Although I'm moving to a way bigger city soon, so I'm sure I could find those there if I looked.
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Ah, thanks... I googled too and saw scary-looking things like "Today, EDTA is mainly synthesised from ethylenediamine (1,2-diaminoethane), formaldehyde (methanal), and sodium cyanide."



But I didn't know if there were animal derivatives in it. I'm guessing not and... It's just that it's a chemical and that's why Doktormartini gave it an unhappy face?

Cause it's slightly genotoxic and cytotoxic.

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Cause it's slightly genotoxic and cytotoxic.



Good to know, thank you!
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Good to know, thank you!

I mean it's probably not that bad of a deal but I don't want genotoxic things in my food, even if it's in really small amounts that probably won't affect me.

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