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#31 Old 08-09-2009, 03:00 PM
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I think Smart bacon is better then Morningstar!
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#32 Old 08-11-2009, 04:30 PM
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*whispers*



You have... no idea... the things I know about pain.



*eerily blank stare*



(Was that convincing? It was, wasn't it? I rock. Woo!)







I also just realized people are saying Bacosomethingorotherbits are vegan.



HOW IS IT THAT I CAN'T DRINK STARBUCKS SOY CHAI ANYMORE, BUT FRIGGIN' BACON FLAVORED BITS ARE VEGAN!?!?



You all might be safe from my Wrath of Doom. I might have to dedicate all voodoo efforts to the Bacos-are-vegan vs. my-favorite-tea-isn't-vegan insanity...



Wait a second, Starbucks Soy Chai isn't vegan? Whaaaaaaat?!!! How do you know this?



I think a little piece of me just died. Right now. Here. Because of that.
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Wait a second, Starbucks Soy Chai isn't vegan? Whaaaaaaat?!!! How do you know this?



I think a little piece of me just died. Right now. Here. Because of that.



I feel EXACTLY the same way. EXACTLY. I was passionately in love with Starbucks Soy Chai.



~Here~ is a post I wrote about it in another thread.



I originally got the info from people online just saying it wasn't... But since Starbucks themselves don't list their drink ingredients on their website (they list food items ingredients, I think, and stuff you can buy over the counter in bulk, such as the Tazo chai mixes - which are not vegan either, obviously), I called just to confirm at 1-800-23LATTE.



Sure enough, it has honey. It's not vegan.



And as I said in that other post... It is DEFINITELY the thing I miss most. I'm still sulking about it, in fact. I don't miss meat, I don't miss cheese. I don't have cravings for eggs or even for honey itself. Once those things were out of my system, I just didn't care. No temptation.



But the chai? Dear lord, I want it. I HAVE to find a substitute and soon. Or I might actually die.
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#34 Old 08-12-2009, 07:57 AM
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HOW IS IT THAT I CAN'T DRINK STARBUCKS SOY CHAI ANYMORE, BUT FRIGGIN' BACON FLAVORED BITS ARE VEGAN!?!?

You think that's weird? Here in the UK, for many years, a popular brand of cheese & onion flavour crisps (potato chips to you yanks) weren't veggie, yet the roast beef flavour were. Go figure.
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My only advice on fake bacon is to deep-fry it. Real bacon is absolutely loaded with fat, and it's hard to duplicate the flavor and mouth-feel with the comparatively low-fat plant-based substitutes. I think the companies could probably make them more fattening, but then they'd lose the health-conscious market, which is probably a lot bigger than the vegan-but-want-things-that-really-taste-like-meat market.
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For anyone interested, this is the recipe Tom referred to from the Now and Zen Epicure for home made soy bacon:



8 ounces pre-pressed or firm tofu

1 Tablespoon oil plus nonfat cooking spray (or 2 -3 Tablespoons oil)

3 Tablespoons nutritional yeast flakes

3 Tablespoons soy sauce

1 teaspoon liquid smoke



Slice the tofu into pieces 1/4 inch thick and about the width of a slice of bacon. Heat the oil in a skillet (preferably non-stick) and cook the tofu slices over a medium-low flame until golden brown and crispy on one side. (This can take up to 15 minutes depending on the pan used.) Flip and cook the other side until browned. The tofu should be very brown and crispy. Sprinkle with the nutritional yeast, then add the soy sauce and liquid smoke, and stir quickly to coat the tofu slices evenly. Cook for another moment, then serve.



(yield 2 to 4 servings)





I never tried it myself because...nutritional yeast but I know other people seem to like this recipe.

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For anyone interested, this is the recipe Tom referred to from the Now and Zen Epicure for home made soy bacon:



8 ounces pre-pressed or firm tofu

1 Tablespoon oil plus nonfat cooking spray (or 2 -3 Tablespoons oil)

3 Tablespoons nutritional yeast flakes

3 Tablespoons soy sauce

1 teaspoon liquid smoke



Slice the tofu into pieces 1/4 inch thick and about the width of a slice of bacon. Heat the oil in a skillet (preferably non-stick) and cook the tofu slices over a medium-low flame until golden brown and crispy on one side. (This can take up to 15 minutes depending on the pan used.) Flip and cook the other side until browned. The tofu should be very brown and crispy. Sprinkle with the nutritional yeast, then add the soy sauce and liquid smoke, and stir quickly to coat the tofu slices evenly. Cook for another moment, then serve.



(yield 2 to 4 servings)





I never tried it myself because...nutritional yeast but I know other people seem to like this recipe.



Yes, back in the horse and buggy days before bacon analogs were around I used to make this recipe, too. It works pretty well but I would marinate the tofu slices in the soy sauce and liquid smoke and add a drop of maple syrup overnight and then cook them in a pan on low heat for a quite a long time to get them 'just right'. I never used the nutritional yeast flakes, though.
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Thanks for posting that recipe, Dutchabbey. I haven't found that book yet, although I have a few cookbooks already so I haven’t been looking all that hard….



Nutritional yeast is strange. I think sometimes brewer's yeast is sold as nutritional yeast, and it doesn't taste good at all. (Mind you, this is coming from someone who enjoys firm tofu plain!) The brewer’s yeast I’m thinking of is a sort of grayish-tannish fine powder, whereas the nutritional yeast I’ve recently come to like is pale yellow, a sort of flaky powder, with a cheesy taste. But bacon doesn’t taste cheesy, as I recall, so I don’t know what “nooch” is doing in this recipe…



I think I’ll google around to see if there is anything unhealthy in liquid smoke. Real smoke contains carcinogenic benzopyrene but I don’t know if this stuff does.



Semicharmed- I hope Starbuck's or some other place comes up with a killer vegan soy chai soon! Hang in there! (Honey wouldn't even be hard to replace!)

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I prefer Smart Bacon. I made a BLT with it and it was wonderful.

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I've never tried smart bacon, but I'm posting b/c I make the shiitake mushroom bacon all the time. It is worth the effort and so good!
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(Mind you, this is coming from someone who enjoys firm tofu plain!)



Really, do you mean plain tofu cooked or cold? (I always put lots of salt and pepper on cooked tofu.)
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Believe it or not.... plain, cold, uncooked tofu.



Okay- maybe "enjoy" is a bit too strong a word. It has a pleasant, faintly sour taste.

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I'll also vouch for Smart Bacon. Throw it in in a sandwich with some Tofurky Turkey, romaine lettuce, tomato, and Vegenaise on toasted sourdough and be amazed!



OMG You just made me soooooo hungry and lunch is an hour away!!!
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Believe it or not.... plain, cold, uncooked tofu.



Okay- maybe "enjoy" is a bit too strong a word. It has a pleasant, faintly sour taste.



I love tofu out of the package, too depending on what brand it is, but I've never had one that was faintly sour (to my mind, faintly sour means slightly gone off ).
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Believe it or not.... plain, cold, uncooked tofu.

Okay- maybe "enjoy" is a bit too strong a word. It has a pleasant, faintly sour taste.



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I love tofu out of the package, too depending on what brand it is, but I've never had one that was faintly sour (to my mind, faintly sour means slightly gone off ).



Weird people.
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I love tofu out of the package, too depending on what brand it is, but I've never had one that was faintly sour (to my mind, faintly sour means slightly gone off ).



Yeah, good quality fresh tofu can be really tasty. I used to get some in San Francisco that was so tasty you'd just put it raw into salads and top with salad dressing. In Edinburgh the Engine Shed brand of tofu is so tasty I'd just put a slab of it on a bun and eat it as a sandwich filling (and the smoked version was even better).



If you people don't like raw tofu then you should probably be shopping for better quality tofu...
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If you people don't like raw tofu then you should probably be shopping for better quality tofu...



Or, we just think the texture and sogginess is gross and prefer it crispy?
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Or, we just think the texture and sogginess is gross and prefer it crispy?



or not at all...
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Or, we just think the texture and sogginess is gross and prefer it crispy?



I love it fried in sesame oil and dipped in peanut/chilli sauce.
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Perhaps sour doesnt really describe how fresh, firm tofu tastes like to me. I was going to say it tastes a bit like cottage cheese (with a different texture), but that doesnt really describe it either. (I could have done a taste test last week when a friend of mine had about 1/3 cup of plain cottage cheese that was perfectly edible but they didnt want to save. However, my cat has dibs on any foods of animal origin which might be suitable for her, and she loved it- she had it as a side for two meals).



Tofu that has gone bad is truly vile. I guess I would describe the taste of fresh, firm uncooked tofu has pleasant but faint. I suppose I could eat uncooked silken tofu but the texture doesnt appeal to me.

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I love it fried in sesame oil and dipped in peanut/chilli sauce.



...that sounds good. I've never fried tofu before, only baked and scrambled it. Is the sauce homemade? I'm thinking I could make that in a jiff... thank you for inspiration!
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Sanitarium Rashers are really yum but I think they're only available in Australia



problem is, theyre not vegan
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...that sounds good. I've never fried tofu before, only baked and scrambled it. Is the sauce homemade? I'm thinking I could make that in a jiff... thank you for inspiration!



It's probably not very healthy because of the frying and peanut butter but it is delicious. I usually just take some smooth peanut butter and add some hot water and some sliced red or green chillies and cook it on a wok for a few minutes.
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It's probably not very healthy because of the frying and peanut butter but it is delicious. I usually just take some smooth peanut butter and add some hot water and some sliced red or green chillies and cook it on a wok for a few minutes.



...well we can all splurge now and again, eh?
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Sanitarium Rashers are really yum but I think they're only available in Australia

I think those have dairy in them? 
Or at least some of the mock meat range by Sanitarium do. That's why I never really got into them (Aussie here too). That and the fact that they're realllllly heavily processed and the ingredients list is freakishly long. 
I've clicked onto this thread having just bought my first pack of Redwood Cheatin' Rashers. Really got into their Cheezly last month so thought I'd give this a whirl. I don't even remember what to cook with bacon huh.gif... perhaps some sort of paella.... ooooooo..... 

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I had the crazy idea to make kale bacon this morning. Not exactly a bacon substitute in and of itself, but it was enough to hold me over while my spouse mowed down on Morningstar farms bacon strips. smiley.gif I ripped kale into bite sized pieces, tossed with liquid smoke, soy sauce, and sesame oil, then baked at 350F until crispy. Really just smoky kale chips, but it was a nice complement to my scrambled tofu.
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After reading this forum, I'm going to try Smart Bacon. I always though Morning Star was 100% vegan???

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After reading this forum, I'm going to try Smart Bacon. I always though Morning Star was 100% vegan???

Nope. Only a few Morningstar farms products are vegan.
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