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#1 Old 10-04-2010, 02:40 PM
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So, I'm sitting here looking at a package of Beef Ramen Noodles (Which, I haven't eaten since I've become Lacto-Ovo for the fear that it's not safe), and, I see Beef Fat.

Beef Fat.

Fat.

Is it off limits? (Not that I'm craving it, but, it's the only thing around here to eat.)

P.S. Please, keep in mind I'm fairly new to this. Retarded question as this may be, I'd still like to know.

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#2 Old 10-04-2010, 02:44 PM
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Errr.... no. Vegetarians don't eat beef.

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But it's the fat...

Fat.

I've been told that it was OK. However, this was told to me by an omni friend, so, I figured I'd ask a more knowledgeable source before I put it in my body.

(What she said: It's not like you're eating the meat. It's just the fat. Someone else is eating the meat. You're just taking the left overs. And they aren't even good left overs. Like no meat. Chill.)

Edit: Not to say I'm just dying to stick meat in my body and trying to plead my case. I'm just trying to be informed.

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#4 Old 10-04-2010, 02:48 PM
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Beef fat is definitely not veg*n. Sorry. The only veg*n ramen flavor I know of is Top Ramen's Oriental. Quote from the Nissin site:
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Do you have any vegetarian products?

Our Top Ramen Oriental flavor contains no animal products.

http://www.nissinfoods.com/faqs.php

Omni's often assume animal based broths, gelatin (comes from animal skin/tissue), animal rennet, fat, etc. are suitable for a vegetarian when they're not. It stinks. The case is that an animal was still killed to obtain that fat. I suppose the same could be said for eggs/dairy/honey but we're talking l/o-vegetarianism here so I won't go further on that topic.

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But it's the fat...

Fat.

Are you taking the piss by any chance?

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Thanks a bunch.

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Is the beef fat in the flavoring or in the noodles?

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Flavoring, I believe. She could probably boil the noodles and add her own spices.

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It's definitely in the flavoring. The Top Ramen Oriental is pretty good


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Hmm, I've got a hankering for some noodles now.

Even though I have none.

And it's 12.30 in the night.

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You could always boil the noodles and add vegetable bouillon (Better Than Bouillon brand is DELICIOUS, they have chicken-style, beef-style, and vegetable broth - all of the vegetarian ones are labeled with a V). You could even add frozen veggies and drop an egg at the very end, stirring it with a fork immediately. It gives you egg drop soup.





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Vegetarians don't eat slaughter by-products, so yeah, you shouldn't eat beef fat. Gelatin has always been a hard one for me... I can't tell you how many times I discovered gelatin in things I NEVER expected (Pop Tarts and yogurt, to name a few things).
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I can't tell you how many times I discovered gelatin in things I NEVER expected (Pop Tarts and yogurt, to name a few things).

Gelatin is a crappy one. I found gelatin in cheese yesterday. The key is to always read the label
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Gelatin is a crappy one. I found gelatin in cheese yesterday. The key is to always read the label

Gelatin is an annoying thing. Same with millions of names for things like tallow and casein .

Beef fat is not vegetarian or vegan. It comes from cows.

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But it's the fat...

Fat.

I've been told that it was OK. However, this was told to me by an omni friend, so, I figured I'd ask a more knowledgeable source before I put it in my body.

(What she said: It's not like you're eating the meat. It's just the fat. Someone else is eating the meat. You're just taking the left overs. And they aren't even good left overs. Like no meat. Chill.)

Edit: Not to say I'm just dying to stick meat in my body and trying to plead my case. I'm just trying to be informed.

Slaughter by-products are not vegetarian. You can loosely say that vegetarians do not eat anything that requires the death of an animal, and vegans don't eat anything that comes from animals period. It is possible to get eggs without slaughtering the hen (although this doesn't happen in commercial farms, don't be misled) so they are vegetarian. You can't get beef fat without killing the cow, so it is not vegetarian.

I hope that clears things up
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Thanks.
Yeah, I ended up boiling the noodles and adding Lemon Pepper (As that flavoring is absolutely to die for)

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Sounds interesting! I'm glad you enjoyed them without the nasty beef fat.
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You can't get beef fat without killing the cow, so it is not vegetarian.

Liposuction?

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#21 Old 10-06-2010, 10:57 AM
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lol what the hell.

'oh i won't eat a cow, but i don't mind eating it's fat'

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Lets be supportive, shall we?
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Yeah please don't forget this is the New to Vegetarianism sub forum. It's a support forum for people who are just starting out and don't know things like what is vegetarian and what isn't.
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I think it was an excellent question actually. Pretty much every single omni I know assumes that vegetarians can eat chicken/beef broth. I don't see how that's any different than beef fat. It's through these sort of questions that we can spread awareness.

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I always throw away the seasoning packets even the vegan one. There's a billion things you could make with ramen that are so much more delicious than the normal crappy seasoning packets it comes with. Even eating them raw is tasty and reminds me of fritos.
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There's a billion things you could make with ramen that are so much more delicious than the normal crappy seasoning packets it comes with.

Really?

I have problems making it as tasty as the included seasoning package.

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Really?

I have problems making it as tasty as the included seasoning package.

Yep just cook them and use them in place of any other noodle dish. Instead of the seasoning pack use things like:

-peanut sauce or any other type of thai sauce
-indian curry sauce or seasonings
-italian dressing and veggies "pasta salad" (I add black olives, chopped tomatoes, cucumbers, shredded carrots, etc)
-mac n' cheese (earth balance and veg*n cheese sub or nutritional yeast)
-stir fry w/ soy sauce/sesame oil and veggies
-veg*n butter and frozen veggies topped w/ toasted breadcrumbs or veg*n parm cheese
-pasta sauce

The possibilities are endless!!
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Really?

I have problems making it as tasty as the included seasoning package.

You probably need more MSG. :P

Odd beef fat fact -- it's also found in twinkies and other hostess pastries.

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Oh no. The "DO YOU TRULY UNDERSTAND???????" guy is back.


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With instant noodles, you need to watch for flavour enhancers: E626-E635 are not vegetarian (see http://food-info.net to get the additive names for US consumers), although there is a very small possibility that some may be vegetarian. I've seen OXO Vegetable stock with E635 and a label saying "Suitable for Vegetarians" and mushroom soup with E635 whose manufacturers told me it was vegetarian. So if you see instant noodles, soup mix, stock or other food products with E626-E635 (any of the numbers in between) then it's probably not vegetarian and you should call the manufacturer to check before buying.

By the way, E621 (monosodium glutamate) is vegetarian.

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