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#31 Old 01-26-2007, 02:42 AM
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groovy if eating and food should be to bigger stress , if you find yourself worried about not having your set foods (worried the shop wont have it) , or thinking about the nutirence in each item you eat , its taking up to much space in your mind and its a disorder , its okay it can happen but to be truly healthy you need to be relaxed around food and enjoy , not stress over it !



I agree. Although I do not feel comfortable eating "unhealthy" food, I am working towards expanding the range of healthy foods that are available.
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#32 Old 01-26-2007, 03:42 PM
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thats awsome groovy , i really want you to know that your not alone , i am so fearful of any food that might have a bit of sugar, is not lowest G.I. ect. but as i break free little by little i actually FEEL healthier , i get a bit more energy , my hair looks abit brighter , its so hard but i want you to know im thinking of you , let me know how things are going
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I am now doing my best to expand the range of foods that I eat.



This is no easy task, particularly as I am recovering from an eating disorder, but I am trying really hard.



Thank you for your support everyone.
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#34 Old 02-07-2007, 02:29 AM
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Please feel free to PM me specialK if you feel in need of further support or even just want to talk.



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Well done Groovy - I'm glad to hear that you are trying to expand. It is tricky, and moving out of your comfort zone is always hard, but it can be done. Don't think of it as going OUTSIDE the zone, think of it as reconquest and expansion!!



Ohh, can you tell I just went to a lecture on Spanish history?



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Well done Groovy - I'm glad to hear that you are trying to expand. It is tricky, and moving out of your comfort zone is always hard, but it can be done. Don't think of it as going OUTSIDE the zone, think of it as reconquest and expansion!!



Ohh, can you tell I just went to a lecture on Spanish history?



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Thanks Jen! Reconquest (an excellent word by the way! ) and expansion is an excellent way to think of it. Thank you for the suggestion.



A lecture on Spanish History? Wow! That sounds really interesting! I hope you enjoyed it!
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good on you groovy i think its great if you care for yourself enough to try and break free to be free
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you guys are all doing great. coming to this board reminds me of how people who were in the same boat as me pulled themself out of this problem and you're all getting so healthy.



i ate a lot again today... because i skipped breakfast and lunch. TOMMOROW I AM NOT DOING THAT. obviously skipping two meals and going 9 hours without food will make a huge meal happen... and when that happens i'm so starving that i eat and eat, and since it takes 20 minutes to feel full... i end up eating too much. too much at one time at least. bleh.



i just have such a fear of getting big. i still sort of want to lose weight, which i know i can do healthily. i mean, i'm a healthy teenage vegan... being small shouldn't really be an issue. i'll admit i do still want to be skinny, but i never want to be sickly thin or too thin, which skipping meals and undereating will obviously bring me to inevitably.



I WANT TO BE VEGAN FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

I WANT TO SET A GOOD EXAMPLE OF VEGANS.

I WANT TO HAVE MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THINGS I LIKE RATHER THAN FOODFOODFOOD.

I WANT TO NOURISH MY BODY WITHOUT WANTING TO HARM IT AFTER.

I DESERVE TO BE NOURISHED.
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Thanks specialK. I hope you are doing okay too.
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Like other psychological disorders, I think if you are letting this affect your life in a negative way then it is orthorexia. To the guy who said he/she avoids social situations where there might be unhealthy food, I think this is a major symptom of orthorexia. Not allowing yourself to have an enjoyable evening out because you're worried none of the food will be healthy - is UNHEALTHY.



I try to eat healthy but I know it's not going to happen all the time. I control what I eat when I can. When I get a craving, I let it go for three days and if I still have the craving on the third day I eat it. When I'm at parties, as long as it's vegan, I eat it. Living a happy life is just as healthy, if not more so, than a healthy diet. What are you feeding yourself for after all? Mangia!!!
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Cutting out sugar and chemical crap is sensible and healthy. Making nutritious choices instead of choosing junk is wise.



However, becoming militant about food/health/weight isn't healthy at all, and can become quite a debilitating obsession. As long as you are eating enough and not obsessing I think you're fine....
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hi Groovy

my browser won't let me view pages 3 and 4 so i hope im not repeating what other people have said...but i definetely understand what you mean.

I've struggled a lot with this in the past and what makes it particularly difficult is the 'fads' of healthy. One minute I read that too much protein is bad, then its too many grains, then its too much sugar, then its dairy, the list is endless...and confusing. I was starting to drive myself insane.

That said, healthy is good. I personally feel a whole lot better eating whole foods. BUT i feel EVEN better now that i eat ..probably 20% 'less healthy' food, as you mentioned somewhere in there. I've become a fan of the slogan Eat to Live not Live to Eat ..even though i use it in a different way to how i think it was intended. the way i see it...what's the point in living perfectly if you're not really living? I never used to leave the house for fear of being trapped without 'good' food (and this was when 'good' had to be something so specific that it was ridiculous) and so while i was 'healthy' (and now i look back on it..i probably wasn't even that) i was sad, depressed, anxious, lonely, wasting time.

does that make sense? i really hope so.

Im not saying go out and eat crap. I'm just saying, stay realistic about whats healthy, and stay in tune with life, not JUST food and its value.



i hope ive helped just a little. i can't stress enough how much better life is now that ive relaxed (although not as much as most people).



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noooooooooo. i just posted the longest wisest response to your thread. coz ive been there. and figured out better ways of thinking and being and feel so much better about life and food. but it deleted it. i think. and now i have to go and don't have time to retype it



but i have time to type these :



xoxoxoxoxoxo



i hope they'll help at least a little

xoxo
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I can really relate to this thread...although my food issues are not based upon fears of getting fat but on fears of getting ill from the food I eat (sort of like Hoodedclawjen mentioned) and I'm now a mental mess from this.



I feel better on whole foods with treats here and there; however, I am severely underweight now and my social life is a mess. It seems food is always an issue now, my friends eat out all the time and I'm terrified to do so, and I know it would be food that I'm not comfortable with/might upset my stomach. I'm not celiac...but I'm scared of wheat, and wheat is in almoust everythingj in restaurants...and what about desserts- my friends are always going out for ice cream, etc and I wont even touch a peice of cheese more or less frozen yogurt/ice cream :O



I've come to the point where I worry so much about food that anything upsets my stomach cuz I'm worried it will make me feel bad (I've had lots of digestive problems). And when I'm around friends I feel stupid if I dont eat anything since I"m so underweight....I dont want people to think I'm anorexic, i'm not...I'm just a mess...



I stay home like taurushead used to so that I can eat the foods that are "okay" and I eat on a timed scheduale and whenever I get off my scheduale I freak out....



how do I get over this? when do you decide if its all worth it?



I swear I was a lot happier 5 years ago, when I ate fast food (horrible I know), went out and didnt worry about eating scheduales, and had a life outside of food....
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sugarb, the reason you were happier is because you weren't worrying about what you were eating. A little concern is ok, but you are starting to worry too much. (Been there, done that, brought the t-shirt, reaping the results right now...not a good direction.) pm if you want.
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i know how frightening it is to eat when you don't know if its going to make you sick or not - i remember feeling sooo scared, when i was in school, to eat anything- even things that i thought were 'safe' sometimes caused me problems, and because i didn't know if what i thought was ok, would actually have me doubled up in pain ten minutes later, i'd wait and wait and wait to eat, until i felt so awful that i had to have something. by then my stomach wouldn't be ready for food, and so it'd hurt..... and the more stressed i got, the more my stomach hurted. its a big vicious cycle. i empathise.



if you haven't already started to, i think you could maybe think about doing the following:



- finding a really good GI doctor to help you work out your digestive problems- you might have some food intollerances that aren't being adressed, so there might be foods that are causing you trouble, but there could also be others that you're avoiding, that might actually be ok for you. if you can't have wheat, for example, do you replace it with something else? there are rice and maize and other non-wheat pastas and breads around- its dangerous to just cut out a big chunk of a food group without filling the gap with similar nutrients, ya know? also, you could have IBS, or something similar, in which case a specialist would be really helpful- they have loads of excellent things up their sleeves to settle tummies, to stop bloating and spasms, and to help you get all your nutrients etc, and they can help you do things like a food diary to weed out the likely culprits.



-finding a good nutritionist, to help you work out what you can eat, and how much of it you should eat, and how to fill the gaps in your diet. being seriously underwieght just isn't a great idea. you're probably low on vitamins and minerals, and if you're not giving your body enough fuel, that'll not help your emotional state either.



- finding a professional eating-disorder-specialist coucellor to talk to, to work around your food based fears and how food and control is affecting you emotionally in general. you might not have annorexia, but your eating does apear to be causing you lots of problems, so it'd be good to try and fix them.



you can totally beat this! i did- now i've got loads of cupboards full of different things to eat, a really great diet, with the flexibility and skills to find something when i choose to eat out, and the confidence to take something with me if i need to. and i can eat without fear of tummy aches now too - nowadays its a rare day that i do get a problem- and when i do, i just go with it, and cope without a panic- i remind myself that everyone has random tummy troubles sometimes... and that tomorrow is a new day.
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My diet is currently completely vegan, with no added sugar or other chemicals. I will additionally not allow myself any food which I do not consider to be nutritious in some way.



Does my diet sound TOO restrictive?



Opinions appreciated.



How are we suppposed to judge if we don't know what you put into your mouth?
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#48 Old 07-06-2007, 01:56 PM
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How are we suppposed to judge if we don't know what you put into your mouth?

We're not supposed to judge.
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#49 Old 07-08-2007, 10:37 AM
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My therapist considers my diet to be restrictive because I do not allow myself to consume the foods that others enjoy.



I'm a vegetarian body builder that eats a very "restrictive," but very carefully calculated nutritional diet. I'm healthy and my body is very responsive. I don't eat every meal with "enjoyment" in mind. I do enjoy the benefits of each meal and don't torture my tastebuds, but when it comes down to it I eat what I need, and what I can, with my political vegetarianism in mind.



Research nutrition with your goals in mind - do you want to maintain weight, gain muscle, lose fat, or just stay generally healthy? Solicite the help of professional nutritionists if you can.



Good luck to you.
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Thank you for all of your inputs.



My questions were purely based upon concerns raised by both my dietician and parents. However, as my parents are omnivores, and my dietician eats meat herself, I can see how it would be difficult for them to accept why someone would eat what they perceive to be a "restrictive" diet.



At this present time, I don't see that there is a major problem with my diet, as long as I follow the relevant health guidelines for vegans.
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We're not supposed to judge.



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