this same debate comes up on the bodybuilding boards
all i can tell you is what i believe to be true and what i've observed from meat eating bodybuilders durring their cutting cycles.
and i did qualify it by stating that it's of course dependant on your total caloric needs/energy level.
and the comment about needing legumes and grains to achieve our nutrient requirements is pretty uninformed
everything we need can easily be found in vegetables...including protein
barrylove - sorry i didn't check this thread for a few days...i'm not raw, nor am i focussed on losing weight at this time, but if you're interested in that sort of thing check this guy out: http://www.charliesgym.info/wst_page2.html
My typical daily diet
Ok, so here's what a typical day's diet is for me, and you can try to figure out where I get my protein.
7 a.m. - 2 oranges or fruit in season with 5-6 lettuce leaves
8 a.m. - 35 strawberries or fruit in season with 5-6 lettuce leaves
9 a.m. - 4 bananas with 5-6 lettuce leaves
10:30 a.m. - 4 bananas with 5-6 lettuce leaves
12 noon - 4 bananas with 2-3 celery ribs
1:30 p.m. - 4 bananas with 2-3 celery ribs
3:00 p.m. - 4 bananas with 2-3 celery ribs
4:30 p.m. - 4-5 pieces of other fruit in season such as peaches, apricots, etc
6:00 p.m. - Large salad comprised of 1 head of lettuce, some kale, broccoli, cauliflower, sweet red bell pepper, cabbage and 1/2 cup of one variety of nuts each night. I soak the nuts in water for 24 hours first. I eat different nut each night for variety. My favorites are: almonds, pistachios, walnuts, brazil nuts, hemp seeds, macadamia nuts, or one avocado.
8:00 p.m. 30 dates followed by 2 -3 ribs celery
My opinion is that if you get enough calories, you get enough protein - it's automatic.
now his last statement needs to be qualified since it's taken out of context "My opinion is that if you get enough calories, you get enough protein - it's automatic." is only true if your subsisting on a raw vegetable diet.
you'll notice this guy eats an insane amount of fruit, but you also have to understand that this guy expends an insane amount of energy daily, and that he's also completely cut out grains and legumes...add either of those to his diet and he'd probably start gaining fat as this guy has his intake requirements down to a fine science.