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dietcoke 12-30-2005 11:20 AM

I was flipping through one of my mom's diet books, and it says that things like broccoli, mushrooms, onions and green beans are "free" foods, that you don't count them when counting calories.

But I eat so many of those!!! Like, an entire frozen package at a time. Should I still count them?

<-----counts calories for weight matenance(sp), not for losing.

taurushead 12-30-2005 04:03 PM

i woulda thought u should? coz calories are calories?? but the calories in say, mushrooms, are so tiny that even when you count them there aren't many there so i guess either way it doesn't matter.

isn't like..a cup of mushrooms only 21 c. or something crazy like that?

love mushrooms..they taste like heavvvvvvvvven.

broccoli 12-30-2005 04:30 PM

I agree, calories are calories, but wouldn't get obsessive or anything over the calories in mushrooms or broccoli. I mean, it's not like it's a big piece of chocolate cake.

If you're maintaining, I wouldn't really worry about it.

bluewisdom 12-30-2005 06:22 PM

If you are going to count calories, for whatever reason, then yes..the calories in vegetables do count.

A person CAN gain weight from vegetables, if they eat 3500 extra calories of them than they need to maintain.

all calories = energy

and too much energy = weight gain

However, that said, I don't think the calories in vegetables (not cooked in oil) or fresh fruits should concern you. It is very hard to overeat vegetables, they are so far from being energy-dense. They are the complete opposite of energy dense. The only exceptions to this are avocados, coconut, mangos, bananas..and starchy vegetables such as corn, potatoes, squash, peas, and beans. And still, it would be pretty hard to overeat even THOSE fruits/vegetables.

It's the stuff like nut butters, spreads, salad dressings, condiments, jam, dried fruit, nuts, trail mix, cheese, ice cream, cake, pie, chocolate, candy, crackers, chips, other snack foods, pasta, cereal, caloric liquids, sugar-y foods, sugar yogurt, etc...that need to be moderated.....because they are very easy to consume too many calories of, since they are so energy dense.

A small amount tends to have a lot of calories.

So it's easy to "overeat" energy dense foods (calorie wise), and yet not feel full (stomach wise) you eat more to get full...and that is when you end up with excess calories that end up turning to excess weight.

Tesseract 12-30-2005 06:30 PM

I think Bluewisdom has the right of it... the non-starchy vegetables are relatively low in calories and high in fiber, so you'd have to stuff yourself silly before you could really get a lot of calories from them. Still, if you're counting calories, it seems you should count everything. Not a fan of calorie-counting myself.

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