Originally Posted by jonjan
lol like it
i think the best is the best in mostly all ways... no need to fake respect,, instead just acknowledge that you don't know enough to judge.. and if there's no money or urgent action needed, there's no need for a quick judgement
i'm with you, obviously makes sense to test and experience anything we care about. but the 'spanish inquisition' doesn't feel as acceptable to those being grilled at the same time as they're judged treated as if their likely or potential liars.
the new thread i started sure has a few very unwelcoming replies 'guilty of ill intent until proven innocent'
i'm just going with my own path, and just take others idea as ideas on what might be good guidance for myself. but too, if somebody has zero conflict of intere$t, then it makes sense to question if there's any reason to use the same skeptisism as i would on a salesman. but if i can't trust, then just focus on self exploring. at least that's what i do
are you exploring fruitarian or raw currently? I'd say i'm about 50%-100% fresh organic non-gmo fruits now. i'm noticing more and more the effects of cooked food on my body.. dryness, thirst, sluggishness, need to clean out again.. so fruitarian is coming along soon enough.
"just acknowledge that you don't know enough to judge.."
okay, but that is implied in my asking for more information, isn't it?
Don't you think skepticism is prudent and natural toward a person who makes claims that conflict with my experience?
Your comment elsewhere about new paradigms was neither lost nor new, and I am constantly and sincerely interested in challenging any paradigm that cannot support everything that it should. For example... if a person can demonstrably maintain health in a way that conflicts with the current popular scientific thinking, then ... their truth trumps other people's theory.
On the other hand... i've been around a bit and i know that one of the surest signs of a conman is that he distracts attention from the relevent issues when challenged, instead of facing every challenge directly.
there are so many people on an apparently attractive path, but with no solid ground under them. when challenged, they say " can't we all just love each other" or "why are you being negative"?
your comment about "the spanish inquisition" is a little unsettling. i understand that you think that people should share your beliefs. do you want people to just say... "yeah, he's right because..." what would the "because" be? ..."because you are smart"? ... "because you are spiritual"?... "because you like animals, too"?... your apparent motives, and your paper (ie., college, mensa,etc), and your efforts all carry some weight, but leaders and teachers are a dime a dozen.
you've also made several comments referencing people's financial motives. for example something along the lines of... you 'dont have a financial interest in this issue'...as if that purifies your motives...
for someone of your intelligence, this appears to be a manipulative comment (though i don't question the truth of it). we all have motives, whether financial or whatever. your comments on moral development (or whatever) seemed to show an academic knowledge of this (which is great), but your comments about financial motivations are out of place. (if you want to say that you were just anticipating someones comment, i'll say fine)
of course you know that many, many people deceive others for personal reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with money.
further... you know as well, that we often deceive ourselves more than we deceive others.
as far as diet, your comments about sluggishness and so on are certainly true for me. but i have never gone fruitarian for a long period of time (maybe days, not weeks...). i am not rigorously bound to popular nutritional thinking, but... common sense forces me to walk slowly and carefully (regarding nutrition) where most people do not live (ie. with a diet that would seem to harm or kill most people).