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FORMAL LEARNING of Japanese (casual learners accepted also if constructive!)[/B]
FORMAL LEARNING of Japanese, this will ONLY suck up until you read the next paragraph and then we can set sail....
FORWARD: WHAT INSPIRES TO PUT THIS INTO PRACTICE & WHAT IS EFFICIENT AND EFFECTUAL ...to making ends meet between us and foreigners, the likes of whom live in Japan!!!
BASIC IDEA: Basic premise is to engage broad speaking grasp of said language,by using not only each others knowledge with help of VBers each to themself, but with larger web interactions with perhaps other language forums to report on at
VB to enrich qualilty of learning-- it is possible for this NOT to SUCK!!!

Stoke up for learning here and NOW and imminently/ subsequently as follows and take action by forming a group of interested individuals to forcast interest in this imminent "Japanese Language Thread" before I proceed starting a thread.
WHAT RULES/ WHAT GAINS/ WHAT GIVES, etc SHOULD I PROCEED >>
Please be serious, because if you are TOO casual, maybe this is not for you, so you seriously interested?...READ ON....
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JAPANESE LANG >>
READY?? >>
FAQ: [Answering as we Go!!]
WHO FOR IS IT?? DOES IT MATTER WHO, SO LONG AS WILL TO LEARN IS STAUNCH & FLEXIBLE?? >>> Anyone bascily can apply,
it is for any
sensible VBer essentially, is who I (loosely) devise this for or else I can just as easily take this elsewhere if no interest avails and make it function in some other internet forum....
FIRST OF ALL.....
I will not be the teacher, WE ALL WILL BE, I'm not able to appoint HOW you will learn, nor qualified, but I do aim to be the OP to initiate all this, and of course if anyone sees where improvement can be made, great, because we will all contribute in the end IF this goes ahead with the energy and enthusiasm with which it begins (as I intend) !!!....
WHAT IT IS NOT (but what it may become!!!!!).... Naturally since all this is of my own making, this is
not a degree course "as such" quite yet obviously (which would be sweet)...though as best as I can do what you see here "I've devised the basic initial structure of" but then by the same token, realize I'm no where near qualified to create ALL whats needed, but look yo, more likely therefore is that any topic started or related to this OVERALL SUBJECT of japanese lang, will in the event... (to begin now) ...be rather like 'an open forum' in a sense, so any thread born of this standard stands good chance of STRONG potential and could (aiming high!!!!) become "course worthy material"
on language subjects AND IF YOU WANT japanese culture subjects too, respectively, so that we all contribute stuff to either topic/agenda,
in as organized a way as possible and dare I say with that in place, all which is studied may then be potentially of academic standard in
some form, whether you be studying gargantually (big time)or not.... Anyway I HOPE I HOPE I HOPE all matters carry some WEIGHT in experienced gained is all I am saying to produce students here on
VB with tools they can gather up and utilize in the real world, applicable
to whatever you like!!!!....
COMMITMENT EQUALS SUCCESS (in theory~ depending on approach):
All those interested in learning Japanese at any stage ~
but particularly as a beginner~ please show a set of dedicated hands so that I can know whether its worth a combined (or solo) effort for those that are interested to learn sort of collectively or adlib on ones own (but still with help/encouragement of each other!)...
[WHEN to start??/ & LEARNING TACTICS].... >>> starting NOW preferably or as much as you can comfortably take on board at this time, I AM BEGINNER, but regardless, the plan is IMO to proceed so that without a doubt, those that REALLY wanna learn CAN and will (whomever
is interested), and hence then there will be decision made promptly as a result what
type or style (OR combined approach) of learning thread to employ according to amount of interest generated in this short burst concensus.
For example, IF it turns out starting this learning process/
VB project has down less than 5 of us, no problemo, it CAN still work and maybe better with few than many messing things up... With such few numbers likely to be interested it will in my view make sense in that case to start a thread suited to that number for this very purpose of targeting those most willing to learn, like myself, and assuming there will be only a small handful of us anyway, thats cool by me, since learners up for this will be most into it, and giving it their individual & shared major ambition which we will among us have in common..... Sooo, who do we have?....or is it just me up for this at present?
IMPORTANT NOTES FOR STUDY, major point is to note
how often you can manage to make your input, should you be interested with the required enthusiasm it takes to succeed!....
Friendly warning: lack of input may warrant you out by default, but I will
not (try not)

as OP, condemn or backhand those of us (including myself) if learning suffers due to time restraints for individuals, so long as who joins in is serious, or in some way committed to being constructive in helping this be an enjoyable experience for all who feel the will to APPLY THEMSELVES!