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#1 Old 06-19-2004, 12:51 PM
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ok, if anyone is knowledgable about rabbits, i would appreciate your help.



my rabbit oreo is female and not spayed. sometimes she will go into heat and start making a nest out of shredded newspaper and her own fur. i noticed a small bald patch on her neck, and thought it was just from her pulling her hair out to make a nest. it grew back and there was no swelling or bleeding or anything, so i thought it was okay. recently it came back, and it looks really bad. the bald patch is much larger. the skin is not red or raw, but there is one spot with a scab where it must have been bleeding.



what could be the cause of this? could it be a parasite? i am going to contact my vet on monday, but i just want to know how serious it is. thanks in advance.



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I've never had a rabbit, but I had a friend once that had a cat that was obsessive compulsive & it licked most of it's fur off just because the compulsion. It's really common. I also saw a show that had studies on mice and they had the same problem. My friend had to keep his cat on medication for it. The medication worked, but as soon as he took her off of it, she started licking again. Hope that helps.
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Is there anything that she could be scraping up against that is rubbing the skin off?
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I don't know. Is she in a cage?? Maybe the metal wires if she rubbed it enough. She could be biting the back of her neck. Can she reach??? The scab is probably from over biting/grooming~if that's what the problem is. I would look that up online. I'm sure she's not the only bunny!!! Poor thing. Send her my love
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the patch is on the front of her neck, like by her chest. i don't *think* there is anything she could be scraping against.... she *is* in a wire cage so it could be that, but i have not seen any fur/blood caught in any wires.... maybe i should get her a new cage.

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That's strange. She's probably not rubbing anything. Can her mouth reach that spot? I'm not sure how flexible rabbits are, but if it's on her bib part it's gotta either be her picking at herself, or a medical problem. God I hope not, have you ever seen her picking or whatever you would call that???
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caged animals sometimes mutilate themselves. this is common in animals on fur farms and labs. but i have no idea if thats whats up with your bunny? please let us know how it went at the vet. i hope she is okay...

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have you talked to your vet yet?
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Please talk to your vet and let us know what's up. I've got two rabbits now and have had many in the past and haven't come across this problem. Good luck.
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I don't know if this will help, but here:

http://www.pet-care-plus.com/exotic-...it-disease.htm
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thanks for your responses everyone! ^_^



i made an appointment with the vet, it is in a week it's in a really trendy expensive area, and they are a specialty vet, so it takes a while sometimes. i am cleaning my lil girl's cage tonight, so i will take another closer look at her... last time i looked a little of the hair had grown back, so that's good. i looked at the list of rabbit diseases and the only one it is comparable to is ear mites, but somehow i don't think that's it.



i'll keep you all updated.

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caged animals sometimes mutilate themselves. this is common in animals on fur farms and labs.



That is disgusting. I have two bunnies. One is mean has always been mean and is my daughters. The only thing she can do is clean her cage. She has tried holding her, playing with her, letting her out, but the bunnie bites digs and thumps. Personally I'm not going near it. Then we have another rabbit whom the first rabbit tore it's hair off so we had to seperate them. This rabbit we let out daily. I also have 3 rats and until we got our cat I used to let them out and one in particular loved to play. I still let him out when the cat isn't in, he especially loves jumping on beds. If I ever see them self mutilate they'll be uncaged immediately.
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i dont think my bunny is mutilating herself... i got her from a neglectful home where she was caged out in the garage, so she has been in a cage all her life. i got her a much bigger cage when we took her in. she was mean and nasty when we got her, but now she's a sweetie.

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hey everyone



i'm glad to report my bunny is doing fine. the scab healed and the hair grew back on its own before i even took her to the vet... he said it doesn't look like mites b/c she is not scratching her ears. so im supposed to keep an eye on herand report any odd behavior or if it comes back. i cleaned out her cage and am tring to play with her more. she is doing goood



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I'm glad to hear your bunnies doing better!
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http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/furloss.html <- a really good link on the causes of hair loss in rabbits.



Even though your vet didn't find evidence of mites, it never hurts to treat them for it anyway. Skin scrapings aren't the most reliable test. They only really show if mites are present in the area that the vet scraped. Plus, unless your vet is an exotics specialist, I wouldn't really trust them. Not to say that they are competent vets, but it's my experience that regular dog and cat vets don't know all that much about exotics.



Also, if this problem reoccurs, you may want to consider spaying her. Hormone imbalances and ovarian cysts can cause hair loss. Not to mention, once she's spayed, you don't have to worry about grouchiness as much. Unspayed rabbits are not the nicest animals.



ETA: I reread the part where you said she was from a neglectful home. I would definatley have her treated with ivermectin.
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Yay!!! Bunny is okay!!! I'm very glad to hear that!!!
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....you may want to consider spaying her. Hormone imbalances and ovarian cysts can cause hair loss. Not to mention, once she's spayed, you don't have to worry about grouchiness as much. Unspayed rabbits are not the nicest animals.....



I've only had 3 rabbits. My first was an unspayed female, and she had a bit of an attitude... but she was reasonably calm. (When I first met her at the shelter and opened her cage, she stuck her head out and nuzzled my face). Maybe she would have been more affectionate if I had sayed her. But she didn't like being picked up. None of my rabbits have liked that, so I avoid it if I can.



The two male rabbits I have now are neutered. They have separate cages, but when they're out together, they get along very well. Before they were neutered they would scuffle, even though one of them wasn't mature yet. And I've heard that reproductive-tract diseases like cancer can be common in unspayed female rabbits. My first died very suddenly, and I never found out why.

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i'm glad to report my bunny is doing fine. the scab healed and the hair grew back on its own before i even took her to the vet... he said it doesn't look like mites b/c she is not scratching her ears. so im supposed to keep an eye on herand report any odd behavior or if it comes back. i cleaned out her cage and am tring to play with her more. she is doing goood



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The "ear-mites" would be indicated by a usually dark brown waxy, crumbly material that you could see by looking in the ears without the aid of an otiscope. A swab gently placed in the ear and rotated once or twice will leave enough material that on a slide mites can usually be seen. However, your vet indicated there were none present, so I'll suspect that those aren't a problem. One person here did mention on a skin scraping, that it's possible to get a poor diagnosis due to just missing the mites in that particular area. Very true, especially with demadectic mites which live inside the hair folicules and not on the skin. Sarcoptic mites, are usually the ones that show a reddened, scabed area from continual scratching, as they irritate and cause itching. These are usually pretty easy to nail on the average skin scraping as they're mobile when viewed under the scope and look like freaky little tanks moving about. If it continues, even with an antibiotic ointment (Panalog my personal fave), I'd say that you should probably consider treatment for the skin mites eventhough not diagnosed. Use care though, as bun-buns don't react as well to many substances that dogs and cats can tollerate. Best O' luck..Tash....
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Also, if this problem reoccurs, you may want to consider spaying her. Hormone imbalances and ovarian cysts can cause hair loss. Not to mention, once she's spayed, you don't have to worry about grouchiness as much. Unspayed rabbits are not the nicest animals.



80% of females will get cancer of the womb before they reach 5 yrs. It does help settle phantom preganies and maybe stop them altogether and makes them more settled and nicer. But if she's like my Petta, she'll have a day where she'll take on bull from anyone. Scratch me twice when trying to stroke her rare and far between glad to say.

Also spaying makes it easier for bunnies to bond. A neutered male is the best bet.

Glad she's ok.
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thanks for the concern everyone... my vet does specialize in exotics, so i trust him. he is really expensive though, so i am looking for another specialist nearby. i found them through the rabbits USA magazine.



she doesn't have any ear discharge or anything that would indicate ear mites. she has had a few of the "false pregnancies" in the short time that we have had her, so my vet thinks that may be it. i am saving up money to get her spayed.



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