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#1 Old 08-10-2003, 02:18 PM
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Wow! i'm just reading last week's time magazine (better late than never i guess ) and there's a tiny little article in the back (3 pages from the end) that a "fiber rich vegetarian diet consisting of foods chosen for their known cholesterol-lowering effects (oats, barely, soy and almonds) as well as a type of margarine enriched with plant sterols (cholesterol lowering compounds naturally found in leafy green vegetables and vegetable oils)" (whew!) was found to lower LDL cholesterol levels 29%....while the people using drugs (statins...which can cause liver damage) and a low fat diet had a 31% decrease. they seem amazed that you can do this WITHOUT using drugs.....duh!
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Yeah, most scientists and researchers won't take a sh*t without a study to back up the proposed benefits.
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#3 Old 08-10-2003, 03:37 PM
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I put that study up on my office door at work since I work with physicians.
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#4 Old 08-11-2003, 07:42 AM
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I put that study up on my office door at work since I work with physicians.



when i worked in the ER i was amazaed at how dumb some of these dr's can be........
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Well forntunately the ones I work with specialize in prevention, so they are actually interested, but I know what you mean.
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(statins...which can cause liver damage)

Today a patient wanted to know how to avoid osteoporosis while having to take glucocorticoids. She read somewhere that statins are good at this. I reminded her that recently Bayer had to take back Lipobay, which caused some deaths. And I explained to her how she can get adequate calcium: leafy green vegetables -: which are also good against elevated cholesterol.

Sandiemac: please look if you can get hold of a reference for the study this article is based upon.

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Today a patient wanted to know how to avoid osteoporosis while having to take glucocorticoids. She read somewhere that statins are good at this. I reminded her that recently Bayer had to take back Lipobay, which caused some deaths. And I explained to her how she can get adequate calcium: leafy green vegetables -: which are also good against elevated cholesterol.

Sandiemac: please look if you can get hold of a reference for the study this article is based upon.



will do. what about potassium? while i was on steroids (for asthma) my doctor had me on a potassium supplement as well.
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#8 Old 08-12-2003, 06:46 AM
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lothar

i PM'd you the study info. if you don't get it let me know and i'll email instead...
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