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#1 Old 12-01-2004, 02:46 AM
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Not a good week for hunters.



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A father accidentally shot and killed his son at a deer feeder and then died of a heart attack, authorities said Monday.



The Medical Examiner's Office in Jacksonville confirmed that Ronald McKenna Jr., 33, died from what appeared to be an accidental gunshot wound. His father, Ronald McKenna Sr., 54, died of a heart attack.



The younger McKenna went into the woods on Thanksgiving Day near Keystone Heights to check on a deer feeder, Clay County sheriff's spokeswoman Mary Justino said. His father saw movement around the feeder that he reportedly thought was a deer. He fired one shot, killing his son. The elder McKenna then suffered a fatal heart attack.



Justino said the investigation continued, but investigators believed there was no evidence of foul play.



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#2 Old 12-01-2004, 02:49 AM
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She loses husband, son on Thanksgiving



Husband shoots son in hunting accident, dies at his side from heart attack.



Marie McKenna lost her heart on Thanksgiving Day.



Everything important died that day and giving thanks hasn't been thought about since.



"You should never have to lose what you love so much," she said, sitting in a car in her driveway because being in the house is just too much. "It's still just rolling around and around in my mind."



Her son, Ronald McKenna II, 33, died Thursday after his father mistook him for a deer in the woods behind their Clay County house, authorities said. Her husband, Ronald McKenna, 54, died next to his son after suffering a heart attack.



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So once again it's time to celebrate?



Seriously, though..... I'm glad I avoided my dad ever taking me out to hunt. He hunts deer and wild boar, and never hesitates to say to me and my mother and brothers "anyone want some fresh deer meat". I'm never sure how much of that is directed at me (him and his mates are typical macho Aussie males, and what I've become probably irks him to no end).
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OMG that's terrible!!



Thanksgiving will NEVER be the same for that family.
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Thats if she's got any family left, poor woman.
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One of my good friends from high school permanently blinded his dad in a hunting accident.
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My dad's best mate's nephew blew his head off with his dad's gun. Since then he (my dad's mate) has hated guns, but my dad still has guns and often goes shooting deer and wild pigs (he sometimes seems to be trying to get me interested..... what a f*cking stupid moron, hasn't he got the idea yet?).
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What a sad story. Whatever you feel about hunting it's hard not to have a whole heap of sympathy for that poor woman.
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All these hunter incidents happening lately... maybe I just didn't notice in past years, or is it really worse this year?
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Oh how sad, the poor woman.
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Maybe the karma was being pooled.
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Not a good week for hunters.







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We've certainly had better times that's for certain.
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All these hunter incidents happening lately... maybe I just didn't notice in past years, or is it really worse this year?



Seems worse. Perhaps it's more publicity.

I do have to say there's a part of me that sides with Kerm here. I was laying in my driveway 2 years back, working on a jeep, and "ka-zing" a ricochet bullet bounced of my drive 12" from my head. It's a sound you'll never forget.. So...do I feel for them when they shoot each other-?.. No not really. Do I feel for the folks in pain from the after effects-? Surely. For anyone in pain I'm empathetic. But I'm wondering if she/they ever put their foot down and say "I don't want you to do it." Gotta wonder if they "met out" their own justice by complacency..
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Too true....maybe they will get the idea that shooting isn't fun after all.
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That poor, poor woman.
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One can only say it so many times



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But I'm wondering if she/they ever put their foot down and say "I don't want you to do it." Gotta wonder if they "met out" their own justice by complacency..



On this vein...My brother is a hunter and regularly goes out with relatives and friends to hunt, using various weapons. My mother has been saying, for the past 4-5 years since he was 13 and first started,

"I don't want you do to that."

"I'm not happy with this.

"I want you to stop it."

She has never actually been able to forbid it, because my father sees nothing wrong with it and supports it although he does not hunt himself.

So perhaps she has been trying for years to get them to stop but, because it was not only her son, but her husband - she couldn't actually stop them. People mostly do what they like anyhow.

I feel for the woman though - I can only imagine how my own mother would feel if she lost her son and husband in a hunting accident.
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I wonder how many deer fathers they separated from their families - by death. Hunters seem to like the mature males in their prime. Thank goodness a little piece of that horror has ended for the wildlife.



Cycle of life, I guess.

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Yes, feel sorry for the poor mum but you gotta wonder about the mentality of a man who goes hunting with his gun-happy dad, wanders off into a bush, hides, and then makes rustlely sounds. I mean, if I was out in the bush and I knew there were a bunch of hunters with guns around I stay waaaay out in the open and wear a very bright hat.

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They weren't out hunting. They were at home. And the son wasn't hiding making rustling noises, he was checking on the deer feeder. The dad shot him from the back porch.

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What's really sick about these people is that they put out deer food, and then, apparently, shoot at them from the back porch when the deer go to get the food.



Good riddance.

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Regardless of where it happened, and your views on hunting, the father was not practising proper gun safety.



It is pretty sick that they set up a deer feeder and shoot them from the porch. I'd say most sporting hunters even would say that was rather unsportsmanlike.

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It is pretty sick that they set up a deer feeder and shoot them from the porch.

It's kinda interesting that, on the one hand, hunters get criticized for not making clean kills and, OTOH, also get criticized when they decrease the odds that they'll needlessly wound an animal. I suppose this contradiction has more to do with emotions than logic.
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There's probably no worse feeling in the world than knowing you accidentally killed your own child. It's probably best that the father died so that he didn't have to continue living with that saddness and guilt. But the poor mother...
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What's really sick about these people is that they put out deer food, and then, apparently, shoot at them from the back porch when the deer go to get the food.



Good riddance.



What's really sick is how cold some people are.
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It's kinda interesting that, on the one hand, hunters get criticized for not making clean kills and, OTOH, also get criticized when they decrease the odds that they'll needlessly wound an animal. I suppose this contradiction has more to do with emotions than logic.



What contradiction? The aspect the criticism focuses on is different.



If I say that killing someone with one's bare hands is cruel and if I also say that killing someone (while not using one's bare hands) is horrible, am I contradicting myself?

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