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#1 Old 01-21-2012, 08:04 AM
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But with the revival of the butcher shop, some young people are undertaking the largely lost art of butchering as a stronger way to connect with their food.

For 24-year-old Andrew Plotsky of Washington, D.C., that meant leaving his job as a barista in a snobby coffee shop to learn the process of raising an animal, slaughtering it and butchering it for a meal.

"I had a romantic idea of the way I thought animals should and could be processed," he tells The Salt. He says he was attracted to the small scale tradition of a whole community having its hands involved in the raising of animals for food. "I wanted to be a part of that process," he says. "Somehow, that manifested in pig slaughter."

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Looking at the guy's picture and his history as a barista in a "snobby" cafe, I'm guessing the only reason he was vegan in the first place was to be trendy.


WARNING: There is one photo of him tackling a pig in the article, but not killing it (yet)
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"I had a romantic idea of the way I thought animals should and could be processed," he tells The Salt. He says he was attracted to the small scale tradition of a whole community having its hands involved in the raising of animals for food. "I wanted to be a part of that process," he says. "Somehow, that manifested in pig slaughter."

OMFG, that quote is so deranged.
I would request a search warrant for his house and computer.

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^ Referring to that same quote, I don't know how the words 'romantic' and 'slaughter' can fit into the same thought. Or how he thinks he bonds with the pig when he kills it. I doubt the pig feels that way.
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"I had a romantic idea of the way I thought children should be enslaved and labored," he tells The Salt. He says he was attracted to the small scale tradition of a whole community having its hands involved in the slavery of children for food. "I wanted to be a part of that process," he says. "Somehow, that manifested in buying my own child slaves."

It's tradition, right?
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"The immediacy of taking life was difficult at first. It's still something I'm figuring out how to rationalize." Then don't do it. It seems like he thinks he needs to work through the guilt so he can be okay with doing it. Why is it that some people just refuse to listen to their conscience?
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I wish every parent would teach their children that is wrong to take a life. I remember saying this to someone, and they remarked- well of course they do! How could you say that? I reminded them that I corrected their own child when I told he was killing a grasshopper. They laughed.
I reminded her of Jeffry Dahmer (sp?), known for killing incests, small animals, and humans. At least he ate the humans, right?

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^ It's a circular problem. The parents weren't brought up to believe it's wrong to kill animals so they don't teach their children that it's wrong to kill animals, who don't teach their children, etc. Unfortunately not many people question what they're told. I agree that parents should teach they're children this, and it's frustrating that this is an idealistic rather than realistic idea.
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I have sifted through the dreck of that article to provide you, dear reader, with these gems:

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By killing the animal himself, Plotsky says he strengthens his bond to that animal, as well as the food it provides, the ground it lived on, and the family and friends he shares the meal with.

Sometimes... a facepalm, or even a heartfelt "WHAT THE ****??!!", just doesn't quite express how you probably feel.
Oh- and this, about a pig's foot, or "trotter", on his plate:
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I bond with my animals by feeding them, not by feeding them to me.

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"Maaaaan, it's the circle of life you know?? *rolls a joint* When I was listening to the newest Vampire Weekend album -- they got 8.4 from Pitchfork btw -- I was thinking, you know, I wanna be connected to nature and stuff. Dude, we're all here just children of the earth mother and I wanna hug the earth mother and maybe kill some of the other children sometime too."


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By killing the animal himself, Plotsky says he strengthens his bond to that animal, as well as the food it provides, the ground it lived on, and the family and friends he shares the meal with.


Quoted from Jeffrey Dahmer:
"The maintaining of the skulls was a way to feel that I had saved at least something of their essence, that I wasn't a total waste in killing them."

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"Maaaaan, it's the circle of life you know?? *rolls a joint* When I was listening to the newest Vampire Weekend album -- they got 8.4 from Pitchfork btw -- I was thinking, you know, I wanna be connected to nature and stuff. Dude, we're all here just children of the earth mother and I wanna hug the earth mother and maybe kill some of the other children sometime too."


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I'm not sure what I found more disgusting, the article itself or the majority of the comments below it. I wish I hadn't read those.
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He's probably a former "vegan" in the same way Lierre Keith was a former "vegan."

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"Maaaaan, it's the circle of life you know?? *rolls a joint* When I was listening to the newest Vampire Weekend album -- they got 8.4 from Pitchfork btw -- I was thinking, you know, I wanna be connected to nature and stuff. Dude, we're all here just children of the earth mother and I wanna hug the earth mother and maybe kill some of the other children sometime too."


Is that the guy from workaholics?
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Don't make fun of stoners! They're more often than not pacifist and benign beings who support our non-violent way of life.


yeah, stoners can do no wrong.

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I will never understand how killing an animal for taste bud pleasure = respect, care, love, special bonding. sick! I could never kill my cat, rip her to shreds, eat her, and then feel okay with myself.
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"Maaaaan, it's the circle of life you know?? *rolls a joint* When I was listening to the newest Vampire Weekend album -- they got 8.4 from Pitchfork btw -- I was thinking, you know, I wanna be connected to nature and stuff. Dude, we're all here just children of the earth mother and I wanna hug the earth mother and maybe kill some of the other children sometime too."


lol pitchfork
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What the hell.
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I will never understand how killing an animal for taste bud pleasure = respect, care, love, special bonding. sick! I could never kill my cat, rip her to shreds, eat her, and then feel okay with myself.

But how else will you bond fully with your cat?

Yeah, what a load of crap.

The whole 'snobby cafe hipster vegan' thing vs. the 'wholesome country in touch with nature pig slaughtering' BS is very irritating.
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What an a-hole. I think he is just one big attention monger. I'd like to stick a pitchfork in him and see how he feels about bonding w/ me.

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Quoted from Jeffrey Dahmer:
"The maintaining of the skulls was a way to feel that I had saved at least something of their essence, that I wasn't a total waste in killing them."

This just sounds completely insane. What a disturbing article.

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Interesting story.. makes me sick >_>

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I just don't get how saying "romantic" and "slaughter" in the case of a pig can be any different than brutally murdering a human being. It makes absolutely no sense to me. It's just completely barbaric.
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lol pitchfork

That's what I got out of the post too.

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"Maaaaan, it's the circle of life you know?? *rolls a joint* When I was listening to the newest Vampire Weekend album -- they got 8.4 from Pitchfork btw -- I was thinking, you know, I wanna be connected to nature and stuff. Dude, we're all here just children of the earth mother and I wanna hug the earth mother and maybe kill some of the other children sometime too."


He needs a pitchfork to the knee.

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Doesn't seem like a very bright fellow.
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He needs a pitchfork to the knee.

I used to strengthen my bond to animals, the food they provide, the ground they lived on, and the family and friends I shares the meal with by killing the animals myself. Then I took a pitchfork in the knee.
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I saw this article on FB the other day, I thought it was just a made up story.

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WARNING: There is one photo of him tackling a pig in the article, but not killing it (yet)

Lying in a pool of blood; someone already died there.

Keep on freepin' on

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