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#1 Old 02-25-2009, 09:03 AM
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Please..... I made seitan from scratch this weekend (mixing flour with water, making a dough, and then washing the starch off) but it was too chewy



Have you had any success with seitan recipes? can you please share with me?



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What in particular are you wanting to do with the seitan? Using Vital Wheat Gluten instead of washing flour is a more efficient way of making seitan.



Here's a link to a seitan tutorial on my blog ->http://megatarian.blogspot.com/2008/...an-how-to.html



You might also do a keyword search on the forum since there are lots of threads about seitan.

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#3 Old 02-25-2009, 10:21 AM
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Yeah, I've made seitan using 'normal' flour using the knead/rinse/knead method and its not only extremely difficult and time consuming, the results aren't all that great. Its much better to find gluten powder and use one of the many recipes floating around for that.



Recipes are a very personal things as what tastes good to me may not taste good to you and visa versa. It took me quite a few times of making various seitan recipes before I found one I liked and even then I changed the recipe to my liking.



First thing: go find and buy some vital wheat gluten or gluten powder. Once you get that, you're half way to making something special.
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I'm looking to make chicken style gluten or beef... whatever is edible LOL!.... I tried before some recipes using vital gluten and it was worse than making it from scratch (very rubbery texture). I do boil the seitan...



Can you show me your favorite seitan recipe (send me the link)... please



Also what's the best brand of vital wheat gluten flour? Thanks a lot!!!
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What in particular are you wanting to do with the seitan? Using Vital Wheat Gluten instead of washing flour is a more efficient way of making seitan.



Here's a link to a seitan tutorial on my blog ->http://megatarian.blogspot.com/2008/...an-how-to.html



You might also do a keyword search on the forum since there are lots of threads about seitan.





Thanks for the link... what cooking method gives you a better texture (less rubbery/chewy)?
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I'm looking to make chicken style gluten or beef... whatever is edible LOL!.... I tried before some recipes using vital gluten and it was worse than making it from scratch (very rubbery texture). I do boil the seitan...



Can you show me your favorite seitan recipe (send me the link)... please



Also what's the best brand of vital wheat gluten flour? Thanks a lot!!!



Boiling your gluten is the worst thing you can do for seitan as it makes it rubbery. I simmer mine.



You also need to mix other items in with your gluten powder to make it less rubbery. Follow a couple of recipes and find one you like.



My fav seitan recipe and several other excellent recipes are here:

https://www.veggieboards.com/boards/s...ad.php?t=96816



Brands of gluten powder are unimportant, just finding it at all is the challenge.
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Boiling your gluten is the worst thing you can do for seitan as it makes it rubbery. I simmer mine.



You also need to mix other items in with your gluten powder to make it less rubbery. Follow a couple of recipes and find one you like.



My fav seitan recipe and several other excellent recipes are here:

https://www.veggieboards.com/boards/s...ad.php?t=96816



Brands of gluten powder are unimportant, just finding it at all is the challenge.



Thanks I will try to simmer it... also I read some recipes where they bake it

http://www.postpunkkitchen.com/forum...p?id=15959&p=1



and other people mentioned they use the crock pot.... have you tried these 2 methods?



also, look at this gluten flour... will this one work?

http://www.amazon.com/Hodgson-Mill-G...5588692&sr=8-2



Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!
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Seitan recipes that basically involve gluten and water turn out pretty rubbery. Boiling it tends to make it spongy/brainy. Adding a second source of protein into the mix (chickpea flour, soy flour, or pureed silken tofu to replace out about half of the liquids) will result in a more tender seitan. Baked is more dense since it isn't soaking up liquid while it cooks.

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Seitan recipes that basically involve gluten and water turn out pretty rubbery. Boiling it tends to make it spongy/brainy. Adding a second source of protein into the mix (chickpea flour, soy flour, or pureed silken tofu to replace out about half of the liquids) will result in a more tender seitan. Baked is more dense since it isn't soaking up liquid while it cooks.





Do you have a recipe that adds chickpea flour? I found this one.

http://www.yellowroserecipes.com/200...n-cutlets.html

have you made this one? Thanks!
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I haven't made it myself, CarlaVeg, but I've heard good things about the Yellow Rose one. I plan on making it myself at some point now that I've gotten my feet wet with a non-boiled recipe.

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Do you have a recipe that adds chickpea flour? I found this one.

http://www.yellowroserecipes.com/200...n-cutlets.html

have you made this one? Thanks!



Just sub out 1/4 cup of vwg for chickpea flour. I haven't made that one, but I've heard good things about it.

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Thanks I will try to simmer it... also I read some recipes where they bake it

http://www.postpunkkitchen.com/forum...p?id=15959&p=1



and other people mentioned they use the crock pot.... have you tried these 2 methods?



also, look at this gluten flour... will this one work?

http://www.amazon.com/Hodgson-Mill-G...5588692&sr=8-2



Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!



Yes, I've used the crockpot and have baked it. The crock pot yields great results but takes a long time. Baking comes out great, too. I just do the simmering thing because its easier, faster and less to wash up.



That vital wheat gluten you've linked to looks perfect.
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Yes, I've used the crockpot and have baked it. The crock pot yields great results but takes a long time. Baking comes out great, too. I just do the simmering thing because its easier, faster and less to wash up.



That vital wheat gluten you've linked to looks perfect.



Thanks for your input!!!



I think I'll make the yellowrose gluten this weekend!
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#14 Old 02-28-2009, 09:20 PM
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I just wanted to let you know that I made this recipe and it turned out pretty good.... now I will bake my seitan going forward



http://www.postpunkkitchen.com/forum...p?id=15959&p=1



I want to experiment with this and maybe make an apple sage log.....
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Thanks for all the great ideas.
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Do you have a recipe that adds chickpea flour? I found this one.

http://www.yellowroserecipes.com/200...n-cutlets.html

have you made this one? Thanks!



This is exactly the recipe I use when making seitan. Sometimes I'll add pureed tofu as well. And I don't do the 'garni' thing as I am not a fan of spices. The salt/pepper/onion powder are all I need. I then simmer it in vegetable broth. Comes out perfect every time for me!
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This is exactly the recipe I use when making seitan. Sometimes I'll add pureed tofu as well. And I don't do the 'garni' thing as I am not a fan of spices. The salt/pepper/onion powder are all I need. I then simmer it in vegetable broth. Comes out perfect every time for me!



Thanks!!! I will make this one tomorrow!!!!



Has anyone tried to make apple & sage "sausage"??????? That will be my next experiment as I love the field roast smoked apple sage sausage so much!!!!
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Try making gluten-free seitan.
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