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#31 Old 09-30-2008, 08:02 PM
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hmmm.. I tried to make my own seitan once and it was very wet bread like (almost as if it had risen like bread dough. had that underdone quick bread texture, too.

tasted OK, so I knew i was on the right track.

Is there a high altitude trick, perhaps?



Now Watercourse and City O'City make awesome buffalo seitan.... I could live on that...
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#32 Old 09-30-2008, 08:52 PM
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the idea of making my own does not appeal to me...



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Homemade seitan is much tastier than store bought, and you benefit from having control over the taste, texture, and shape. I strongly recommend you give it a go if you're a seitan fan.



SERIOUSLY. I can't even imagine using store bought any more. That's like ... just... wrong.
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Yes, if you allow tempeh to pass your lips, you've messed up.



I guess I mess up a lot then.
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Oh right. I seriously thought only vegetarian pioneer women from the 1800's used that method though. (Well, OK, not that, but I did think it was a completely outdated method that hadn't been used since the "invention" of convenient packages of vital wheat gluten...)



In some parts of the world vital wheat gluten powder is very hard to find. In the UK, there is only one place I know where to order it from, and thats an online flour factory that makes it themselves! When I first moved to the UK I had to go for the 1800s pioneering women method a couple of times and man was it hard work!



Go hug your easy-to-find boxes of vital wheat gluten powder and never take them for granted!
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I tried the ribz and was not too impressed with them. That was a couple of months ago and the first and only time that I have tried seitan. But I did not follow the recipie exactly. I used VH garlic rib sauce instead of bbq sauce but I am not sure if that effected the taste too much or not. To me it tasted like stale bread with sweet sauce on it. But my daughter loved the ribz. I have been thinking of trying the recipie again with regular bbq sauce. I have also been thinking about trying other seitan recipies but havent gotten around to doing that yet. I kinda afraid too incase I dont like them either.I was wondering if my wheat gluten is stale. Can it go stale? I bought it from a small health food store in a bulk bin and it kinda smells like stale flour but I know it is wheat gluten for sure because it is rubbery when mixed whit water.
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What confuses me is which dishes need boiled seitan and which ones need a log?
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I tried the ribz and was not too impressed with them. That was a couple of months ago and the first and only time that I have tried seitan. But I did not follow the recipie exactly. I used VH garlic rib sauce instead of bbq sauce but I am not sure if that effected the taste too much or not. To me it tasted like stale bread with sweet sauce on it. But my daughter loved the ribz. I have been thinking of trying the recipie again with regular bbq sauce. I have also been thinking about trying other seitan recipies but havent gotten around to doing that yet. I kinda afraid too incase I dont like them either.

for ribz, it's all about the sauce, IMO, so make sure you use something that you like. I even mix bbq sauce into the dough when I make it. As far as texture goes, it took a little practicing for me to get it down.

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I was wondering if my wheat gluten is stale. Can it go stale? I bought it from a small health food store in a bulk bin and it kinda smells like stale flour but I know it is wheat gluten for sure because it is rubbery when mixed whit water.

I'm guessing the wheat gluten is fine. I get mine out of the bulk bin at the grocery store. Do make sure that, when mixing the dough, that you use cold ingredients. No hot broth, for instance, or the gluten will begin to set before you even start cooking it.

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What confuses me is which dishes need boiled seitan and which ones need a log?

It has a lot to do with texture. Something baked or steamed is going to be firmer and more like processed meat, like sausage or salami. Something boiled will be moister and more closely resemble chunks of chicken.

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I was wondering if my wheat gluten is stale. Can it go stale? I bought it from a small health food store in a bulk bin and it kinda smells like stale flour but I know it is wheat gluten for sure because it is rubbery when mixed whit water.



Yes. Gluten flour, just like other flours, can go rancid or stale. It does take a long time, but depending on the length of time it had been in the bulk bins, as well as temperature and light, it's entirely possible your gluten flour was stale.

If it smells stale, it will pass on that flavor to whatever is cooked with it, I'd start over.



I use mine up pretty fast and get it packaged fresh, direct from the Bob's Red Mill factory store, but I still store mine in the freezer just to be sure.
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What confuses me is which dishes need boiled seitan and which ones need a log?



Personal preference. The texture is different in a baked seitan than a boiled one. I usually use the softer, boiled seitan for things like pot pies and soups and stews, and the firmer baked seitan for sandwiches, fajitas, and snacking.

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Here's what baked seiten looks like before being put in the oven:



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Here's what baked seiten looks like before being put in the oven:






I wish my cat's puke looked that good.



It's either exactly what they just ate (why don't they chew???) or a hairball, which resembles a hairy turd, or liquid and bile... which.. is usually rather clear and slimy and foamy and no fun to step in

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Mmm, brains.
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I wish my cat's puke looked that good.



It's either exactly what they just ate (why don't they chew???) or a hairball, which resembles a hairy turd, or liquid and bile... which.. is usually rather clear and slimy and foamy and no fun to step in



Nice visual...



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Mmm, brains.



Very yummy brains!
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