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#1 Old 02-18-2016, 10:41 AM
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I need a plan to help my transition,

but there are a couple of places I could have posted this I see.

Basically, I'd like to just let folks know that I am body-building, but no longer can stand the thought of eating tortured animals.

I don't even know what all I've posted here on the veggie boards, but want to get involved here, connected with others that have been doing this already, as well as any newbies like myself.

There's so much here, it's over-whelming, but I need to relax and slow down. I am 63, but NOT set in my ways or narrow-minded. I love learning more than ever before in my life. I am more active than ever before in my life.

So yes, find/meet others that have gone before me.

hugs to all, and respect to all vegetarians and vegans, Denise

PS Please feel welcome to send me pm's friend me etc. I will be friending folks although I don't know what benefit that is here, other than knowing we have a list of buddies
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#2 Old 02-18-2016, 12:09 PM
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Hi Denise,


You may find this article useful: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vege...dybuilding.htm


For general nutrition, Mercy For Animals has a well-written Vegetarian Starter Guide. Vegetarian nutrition is summarized on page 7, and very easy meal ideas are shown on pages 11-13: http://www.mercyforanimals.org/files/VSG.pdf .

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Specific recommendations for a healthy diet include: eating more fruit, vegetables, legumes, nuts and grains; cutting down on salt, sugar and fats. It is also advisable to choose unsaturated fats, instead of saturated fats and towards the elimination of trans-fatty acids."
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http://www.who.int/topics/diet/en/
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Hi Denise,


You may find this article useful: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vege...dybuilding.htm


For general nutrition, Mercy For Animals has a well-written Vegetarian Starter Guide. Vegetarian nutrition is summarized on page 7, and very easy meal ideas are shown on pages 11-13: http://www.mercyforanimals.org/files/VSG.pdf .
Hi David, I am not sure but that first link looks like an article I read this a.m. but I will click the link and see. It was excellent if that's it, and I do like the info I've gotten from bodybuilding.com.

Is this site slow for you? I have download speeds of 50-60 and these pages are really jerky with the typing, and lots of ads I think may be causing some of the issues?
I'll read the other book when I can. Can't purchase a book but finding a lot at the library through library2go on my Nook reader denise
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#4 Old 02-18-2016, 07:43 PM
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Is this site slow for you? I have download speeds of 50-60 and these pages are really jerky with the typing, and lots of ads I think may be causing some of the issues?

Yes, I've experienced the same problems. It's especially bad when using Internet Explorer. I switched to Mozilla Foxfire (can be downloaded free), and these problems are now much reduced.
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http://www.who.int/topics/diet/en/
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I have Chrome and it's been the last week that VB's been slow.

You should like this site, their recipes are really good -
http://www.nomeatathlete.com/

Forks over Knives is also a very good resource-
http://www.forksoverknives.com/

It takes time to get over the thought processes we've grown up with about food, what it is, how it's cooked, what it should look like. I'd say it was about 6 months before I wasn;t overthinking things and really felt normal with my diet, being able to navigate things without thinking
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If you are interested in going vegan or vegetarian, and want to know how to do bodybuilding on a plant based diet, I would recommend these books:

"Vegan Bodybuilding and Fitness: The Complete Guide to Building Your Body on a Plant Based Diet" by Robert Cheeke (an incredible bodybuilder who has been vegan for over twenty years).
He also has his own website with a forum on there for vegan athletes: http://veganbodybuilding.com/


"Thrive: The Vegan Nutrition Guide to Optimal Performance in Sports and Life" by Brendan Brazier (professional Ironman/traiathlete)

Brendan is more into a high raw diet and is very strict as far as removing gluten, soy, etc from the diet and including a variety of plant based fats, fruits/vegetables etc. Robert Cheeke's style is more inclusive and allows for more variety as he consumes plenty of soy and grains etc. Their styles are very different but both of them offer some great advice!

I don't consider myself an athlete (though I am a former dancer), but I love to workout five or six days per week (lifting weights, calisthenics, cardio, etc) and I also cycle all over from May to October. I do long distance canoe camping and paddling, hiking, snowshoeing, and lots of dancing (ballet, modern, improv). I have led an active lifestyle for many years, as both a vegan and omnivore. I have found I have more stamina and energy as a vegan. At 43, I can very easily outdo my 20 year old omni self lol. Though I have to admit I can only do the splits one way now while at 20 I could do the Chinese splits as well.

edit to add: you can find both books I mentioned at some public libraries, or buy them used for a very reasonable price on Amazon.com. I actually found the body building one at a garage sale. I used it when I needed to put on weight from an unhealthy underweight and I managed to gain twenty lbs as a vegan in a healthy way without a ton of junk food.
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#7 Old 02-19-2016, 08:22 AM
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Yes, I've experienced the same problems. It's especially bad when using Internet Explorer. I switched to Mozilla Foxfire (can be downloaded free), and these problems are now much reduced.
Thank much David, I do have Palemoon, kind of an off-shoot of MF, and it's faster in other sites. This site is swamped with ads. I don't think I can find a word-around for that. My adblock isn't even working here.

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I have Chrome and it's been the last week that VB's been slow.

You should like this site, their recipes are really good -
http://www.nomeatathlete.com/

Forks over Knives is also a very good resource-
http://www.forksoverknives.com/

It takes time to get over the thought processes we've grown up with about food, what it is, how it's cooked, what it should look like. I'd say it was about 6 months before I wasn;t overthinking things and really felt normal with my diet, being able to navigate things without thinking
Thank you for the sites, I've bookmarked them so I can use them, really appreciate it

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If you are interested in going vegan or vegetarian, and want to know how to do bodybuilding on a plant based diet, I would recommend these books:

"Vegan Bodybuilding and Fitness: The Complete Guide to Building Your Body on a Plant Based Diet" by Robert Cheeke (an incredible bodybuilder who has been vegan for over twenty years).
He also has his own website with a forum on there for vegan athletes: http://veganbodybuilding.com/


"Thrive: The Vegan Nutrition Guide to Optimal Performance in Sports and Life" by Brendan Brazier (professional Ironman/traiathlete)

Brendan is more into a high raw diet and is very strict as far as removing gluten, soy, etc from the diet and including a variety of plant based fats, fruits/vegetables etc. Robert Cheeke's style is more inclusive and allows for more variety as he consumes plenty of soy and grains etc. Their styles are very different but both of them offer some great advice!

I don't consider myself an athlete (though I am a former dancer), but I love to workout five or six days per week (lifting weights, calisthenics, cardio, etc) and I also cycle all over from May to October. I do long distance canoe camping and paddling, hiking, snowshoeing, and lots of dancing (ballet, modern, improv). I have led an active lifestyle for many years, as both a vegan and omnivore. I have found I have more stamina and energy as a vegan. At 43, I can very easily outdo my 20 year old omni self lol. Though I have to admit I can only do the splits one way now while at 20 I could do the Chinese splits as well.

edit to add: you can find both books I mentioned at some public libraries, or buy them used for a very reasonable price on Amazon.com. I actually found the body building one at a garage sale. I used it when I needed to put on weight from an unhealthy underweight and I managed to gain twenty lbs as a vegan in a healthy way without a ton of junk food.
Thank you so much, loved hearing your story, I love to dance, but never had lessons. I'd love to live in such a big house I would have part of it as my studio, lol I'll find the books, I'm super, good at researching and finding the deals I love all your activities, I've kayaked, but nothing but lakes and slow moving (very slow moving) rivers

I'll really be able to use the body-building stuff as I am starting to weight train at 63 I so need the nutrition, but I am determined to stop eating animal proteins. I see I can do that, especially seeing the folks that are actual, body-builders, and active.

Thanks again to everyone Denise
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Yes, I've experienced the same problems. It's especially bad when using Internet Explorer. I switched to Mozilla Foxfire (can be downloaded free), and these problems are now much reduced.
Yes, put adblock plus on your firefox and the site flies.
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I have that Led, and I am noticing it is flying this a.m. Nothing like it was yesterday. I wanted to quit coming here. It's doing great right now, and thank you so much for helping me
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