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littestvegan 01-31-2016 06:47 PM

Yes, I'm still upset that burger kings veggie burger isn't vegan.
 
I'm still so caught up over the fact that burger king couldn't just get a vegan veggie burger. Personally, I don't eat there often but every once in a while, I'd like fast food that isn't just fries. I know many other vegans are kind of like "what the heck" when it comes to this.
So, I wrote burger king just to get some answers and I will update this when I hear from them.
Heres what I said:
"I can't tell you how excited I was to hear that you guys added the veggie burger to the menu! I told everyone I knew about it, and was so ready to try it. Until,one of my friends informed me that yes, it was a veggie burger but it wasn't vegan! :(
I really, really wish you guys would've gotten a vegan veggie burger instead of a vegetarian one that way everyone would be happy. My question is, what's the issue? Is it the cost? Morning star does make a veggie burger that is indeed vegan. Thanks!"

Crouton 01-31-2016 06:52 PM

In my city (Melbourne, Australia), there is a very successful fast-food chain called Lord of the Fries. It offers burgers, hot dogs, fries, onion rings, 'chicken' nuggets' and a whole range of things, and the whole store is 100% vegetarian and almost everything can be made vegan.

And one of the best parts about it, is that it's not advertised as a vegan place or a veggie place, but just a burger place. One of the most popular burger places here actually. A lot of omnivores who eat there love it, and some don't even know it's 100% vegetarian (They use some very good mock meat).

http://www.lordofthefries.com.au/menu/

This whole menu can be vegan, it's amazing!

Sorry if I went off rambling, but I get what you mean about being vegan and still wanting junk food sometimes. Just because we choose to eat cruelty free, and environmentally friendly, doesn't automatically mean we are all health obsessed 100% of the time, even though that is one of the stereotypes. It's why I love Lord of the Fries so much.

I understand your frustration though, aside from this one chain, almost all other burger chain places here only have veggie burgers, not vegan ones.

littestvegan 01-31-2016 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Crouton (Post 3895345)
In my city (Melbourne, Australia), there is a very successful fast-food chain called Lord of the Fries. It offers burgers, hot dogs, fries, onion rings, 'chicken' nuggets' and a whole range of things, and the whole store is 100% vegetarian and almost everything can be made vegan.

And one of the best parts about it, is that it's not advertised as a vegan place or a veggie place, but just a burger place. One of the most popular burger places here actually. A lot of omnivores who eat there love it, and some don't even know it's 100% vegetarian (They use some very good mock meat).

http://www.lordofthefries.com.au/menu/

This whole menu can be vegan, it's amazing!

Sorry if I went off rambling, but I get what you mean about being vegan and still wanting junk food sometimes. Just because we choose to eat cruelty free, and environmentally friendly, doesn't automatically mean we are all health obsessed 100% of the time, even though that is one of the stereotypes. It's why I love Lord of the Fries so much.

Ugh, you are LUCKY. Theres nothing like that here (PA). And if it is it's far from where I am. That's crazy that non-veggie people don't know it's not really meat. Must be good.

littestvegan 01-31-2016 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Crouton (Post 3895345)
In my city (Melbourne, Australia), there is a very successful fast-food chain called Lord of the Fries. It offers burgers, hot dogs, fries, onion rings, 'chicken' nuggets' and a whole range of things, and the whole store is 100% vegetarian and almost everything can be made vegan.

And one of the best parts about it, is that it's not advertised as a vegan place or a veggie place, but just a burger place. One of the most popular burger places here actually. A lot of omnivores who eat there love it, and some don't even know it's 100% vegetarian (They use some very good mock meat).

http://www.lordofthefries.com.au/menu/

This whole menu can be vegan, it's amazing!

Sorry if I went off rambling, but I get what you mean about being vegan and still wanting junk food sometimes. Just because we choose to eat cruelty free, and environmentally friendly, doesn't automatically mean we are all health obsessed 100% of the time, even though that is one of the stereotypes. It's why I love Lord of the Fries so much.

I understand your frustration though, aside from this one chain, almost all other burger chain places here only have veggie burgers, not vegan ones.

Those nuggest are veggie??????:eek: Those look too good, vegan chicken has a special place in my heart. I just this its because its breaded though lol!

Jenn2 01-31-2016 07:07 PM

"Yes, I'm still upset that burger kings veggie burger isn't vegan."

Me too!!! There was a petition for a vegan burger at BK a while back but it is now closed :(
https://www.change.org/p/burger-king...r-to-your-menu
If anyone comes across any new petitions for it, please share with me! I've been on a signing petitions kick lately. Or maybe I'll send a letter like you did :D

littestvegan 01-31-2016 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenn2 (Post 3895377)
"Yes, I'm still upset that burger kings veggie burger isn't vegan."

Me too!!! There was a petition for a vegan burger at BK a while back but it is now closed :(
https://www.change.org/p/burger-king...r-to-your-menu
If anyone comes across any new petitions for it, please share with me! I've been on a signing petitions kick lately. Or maybe I'll send a letter like you did :D

I saw that petition on a similar post! I hope we can change their mind. Maybe ill start a petition.

Poppy 01-31-2016 07:36 PM

Even if BK were to offer a vegan pattie, it's likely the buns would still be questionable.

Jenn2 01-31-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Poppy (Post 3895409)
Even if BK were to offer a vegan pattie, it's likely the buns would still be questionable.

Eek, you're probably right! Maybe that's why they just won't do it. They have mono- and diglycerides in their buns, which could be a problem. If it was easy, you'd think that they would just go for it....like, is it too much of a hassle, or too expensive for a fast food chain to do this?

Wish that lord of the fries place was everywhere.

Crouton 01-31-2016 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by littestvegan (Post 3895361)
Those nuggest are veggie??????:eek: Those look too good, vegan chicken has a special place in my heart. I just this its because its breaded though lol!

My roomate is a huge meat-eater, but he's open to trying new things and eating vegan food, and he admitted that he likes those nuggets more than real chicken nuggets. He also loves their burgers. So yeah the mock meat used there is good enough that even most omni's love it. And a lot of them don't even know it's fake.

littestvegan 01-31-2016 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Poppy (Post 3895409)
Even if BK were to offer a vegan pattie, it's likely the buns would still be questionable.

You're right, I didn't even think about that.

SpookyKid 02-01-2016 01:30 AM

There's also the issue of them possibly/accidently being cooked on the same grill the meat is cooked on. (It's my understanding that's the way they used to be cooked until people complained). They're supposed to be microwaved now (they're just Morningstar veggie burgers) but all it takes is a new employee to assume they get grilled like everything else. Also, here at least, they like to dump a pile of mayo on them as well. I don't know, convenience aside, I think I'll stick to getting my veggie food from a place that isn't called Burger King. ;)

jocelyn3113 02-01-2016 09:20 AM

I love the veggie burgers at Burger king, I think its great the company is making an effort to have a vegetarian option better then we can say for most of the other fast food chains.

Kiwibird08 02-01-2016 09:55 AM

They probably don't want to have to deal with a fully vegan offering. That means they would need to use vegan buns (if not already, which I doubt they are), have a separate grill (who'd want it grilled on the same place they just grilled a beef burger *vomits*), make sure at least some of their sauces/toppings were vegan, train staff as many are likely uneducated about veganism ext ...

Offering a meat free patty that makes no guarantees it wasn't grilled after a burger or in some other way come into contact with meat or dairy residue (i,e, on a prep surface, in a microwave ext...) is about as far as I'm sure they're willing to go. It's better than nothing, and they have actually had their veggie burger for a LONG time (a lot longer than other fast food chains just now catching on to the vegetarian/vegan customer potential). I remember them starting to offer veggie burgers within the first few years after I went veg (and that was in 99'), so BK has been trying to do *something* for veggies for a long time and I commend them for that (even though I wouldn't ever eat their food at this point in my life).

skinnieminnie 02-01-2016 10:39 AM

I appreciate that they do have a vegetarian option, and as another user has said, they've had a veggie burger for quite awhile. There's still so many chains that don't offer anything for a veggie.

I'm not a big fan of MorningStar, so I rarely go there. I wish they served Boca instead :lick: but you never know... maybe in time they'll include a vegan option. I think with the way veganism has become kind of trendy, they just might.

LedBoots 02-01-2016 10:41 AM

BK microwaves the Morningstar patties, so no worries about grill contamination. Tbh, any restaurant that isn't vegan is going to have cross contamination risks.

silva 02-01-2016 04:25 PM

It's been years since I had that and I hated it! It may have been undercooked because it was mush in the middle. I felt it was a conspiracy to keep people from wanting veg foods
I think they have good fries and I never get fries...:crying:
Yeah, I'm craving fries and keep telling myself "NO"

KateForVeggies 02-03-2016 10:47 AM

I recently read somewhere (and was told by someone working there), that they don't use a different grill to cook the veggie burgers... Which means they're cooked right beside meat. That was the end for me! Never again... In fact, I still feel a bit sick.

Muttley 02-03-2016 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KateForVeggies (Post 3898233)
I recently read somewhere (and was told by someone working there), that they don't use a different grill to cook the veggie burgers... Which means they're cooked right beside meat. That was the end for me! Never again... In fact, I still feel a bit sick.

:nerd:

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Originally Posted by LedBoots (Post 3895961)
BK microwaves the Morningstar patties, so no worries about grill contamination. Tbh, any restaurant that isn't vegan is going to have cross contamination risks.

a buddy takes his son to Burger king for the morning star burgers, (family of vegetarians) and has said they look to be either microwaved or cooked in a convection or broiler oven. if I ate them, I would have a hard time buying one at burger king when every major grocery store carries morning star products , around here atleast.

no whey jose 02-03-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crouton (Post 3895345)
In my city (Melbourne, Australia), there is a very successful fast-food chain called Lord of the Fries. It offers burgers, hot dogs, fries, onion rings, 'chicken' nuggets' and a whole range of things, and the whole store is 100% vegetarian and almost everything can be made vegan.

And one of the best parts about it, is that it's not advertised as a vegan place or a veggie place, but just a burger place. One of the most popular burger places here actually. A lot of omnivores who eat there love it, and some don't even know it's 100% vegetarian (They use some very good mock meat).

http://www.lordofthefries.com.au/menu/

This whole menu can be vegan, it's amazing!

Sorry if I went off rambling, but I get what you mean about being vegan and still wanting junk food sometimes. Just because we choose to eat cruelty free, and environmentally friendly, doesn't automatically mean we are all health obsessed 100% of the time, even though that is one of the stereotypes. It's why I love Lord of the Fries so much.

I understand your frustration though, aside from this one chain, almost all other burger chain places here only have veggie burgers, not vegan ones.

I AM SO JEALOUS RIGHT NOW.

I see pictures online of the food from Lord Of The Fries and it all looks phenomenal!

Crouton 02-03-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by no whey jose (Post 3898385)
I AM SO JEALOUS RIGHT NOW.

I see pictures online of the food from Lord Of The Fries and it all looks phenomenal!

Want to become even more jealous? The closest LOTF store to me is a 15 minute walk from my house. And I have to pass THREE of their stores on my usual walk to work. They are everywhere here, it's a very popular chain, with meat-eaters and vegetarians and vegans, everyone loves it.

dormouse 02-03-2016 06:36 PM

It's probably not worth it to them since vegans are so unlikely to go there to begin with. It's probably been AT LEAST 10 years since I set foot inside a Burger King.

Hawx79 02-06-2016 05:19 AM

Why would you want to eat there in the first place? Because even if they had veggie burgers it would still be very unhealthy, containing a lot of artificial ingredients that fattens and undone from its fibers so the customer is never satisfied so they will buy more and more, only to fill in there greedy and evil corporation's pockets.

no whey jose 02-06-2016 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawx79 (Post 3901649)
Why would you want to eat there in the first place? Because even if they had veggie burgers it would still be very unhealthy, containing a lot of artificial ingredients that fattens and undone from its fibers so the customer is never satisfied so they will buy more and more, only to fill in there greedy and evil corporation's pockets.

Veganism is about animal rights, not necessarily health. Vegans can enjoy junk food just as much as anybody else.
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Originally Posted by Crouton (Post 3898553)
Want to become even more jealous? The closest LOTF store to me is a 15 minute walk from my house. And I have to pass THREE of their stores on my usual walk to work. They are everywhere here, it's a very popular chain, with meat-eaters and vegetarians and vegans, everyone loves it.

Can I move in with you?

silva 02-06-2016 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawx79 (Post 3901649)
Why would you want to eat there in the first place? Because even if they had veggie burgers it would still be very unhealthy, containing a lot of artificial ingredients that fattens and undone from its fibers so the customer is never satisfied so they will buy more and more, only to fill in there greedy and evil corporation's pockets.

I wouldn't, but if I knew they had something I would eat like a vegan burger then I would. There are times I'm out and hungry without options.
The point is that if vegan options were readily available, and quit being though of as weird food no one but vegans eat, more people would choose it, whether or not they're vegan. More vegetarians who only eat dairy and eggs because they're common would choose vegan. It's a matter of availability.

Crouton 02-06-2016 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawx79 (Post 3901649)
Why would you want to eat there in the first place? Because even if they had veggie burgers it would still be very unhealthy, containing a lot of artificial ingredients that fattens and undone from its fibers so the customer is never satisfied so they will buy more and more, only to fill in there greedy and evil corporation's pockets.

Exactly what Jose said, being vegan doesn't automatically mean your obsessed with health all the time, it means you care about animals. A lot of vegans still want to spoil themselves and get junk food with friends every now and then.


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