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#1 Old 12-08-2009, 08:25 AM
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i can't afford to buy organic produce, it is much more expensive than the regular produce and in the area of California I live in the organic produce usually is in worse shape than the regular....higher price for old produce does not work into my tiny budget. is it really better, or even organic?



i have been doing some research about organic and why the price point is higher than non-organic. initially it seemed off because pesticides cost money and if they aren't being used the costs should be less, however after being enlightened by fellow vber's i understand that costs are spent of other forms of pest controls, shipping, and that pesticides are currently very easy and cheap for farmers to use.



so is organic really organic? nope, at least not in the US.



the USDA has organic standards that include a list of substances allowed, that list is very long and includes many chemicals that are not necessary.

a USDA Organic seal means 95% is organic.

http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/nop



last year many of the organic certifying agencies were put on probation because of violations against organic standards:

http://www.alternet.org/environment/...eally_organic/



here are some non-organic ingredients that are allowed under the USDA organic seal:

http://www.thedailygreen.com/healthy.../eat-safe/3980



this article blames Bush!

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/0000000000000810



and evil monsanto!

http://businessclarksville.com/2009/...-against-usda/

http://www.monsanto.co.uk/news/99/ju...edinburgh.html blah blah blah B.S!



according to Wikipedia (i know not very reliable) the national organic program consisted of only 12 employees in 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Organic_Program
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#2 Old 12-08-2009, 02:59 PM
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Or course organic farmers use pesticides.



Personally, I think organic food is a complete waste of money. It's a shame that vegan products are so often 'organic', too, I'd rather they weren't and were cheaper.
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#3 Old 12-09-2009, 11:52 AM
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Yeah, I just recently learned all about "organic" produce, thanks to people on here



It's a crock... Organic produce is sometimes sprayed up to 7 times MORE than conventional, but the pesticides are organic, big whoop.



The only organic produce I trust that is not sprayed is what comes from my garden, or my Mom's garden. I buy conventional from the grocery store and just try to wash it thoroughly, should use my veggie wash more often though.
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http://www.consumersunion.org/food/organicsumm.htm



"While our analysis shows that organic foods clearly have much fewer pesticide residues than other choices on the market today, it also suggests several opportunities for organic growers and others to further reduce residue levels."

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