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#1 Old 01-25-2005, 06:02 AM
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Does anyone know the maximum proportion of fruit in the diet that's healthy? That is, how much fruit can I eat and not have health problems, and what would those problems be? (wondering - too much sugar? not enough protein?)
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#2 Old 01-25-2005, 09:00 AM
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I think 5-10 portions is a good rule to stick by, though you could probably do up to 12 at the most. The sugar in fruit is good for you, but if you have too much fruit, you won't have room in your body for the foods that provide other needed nutrients.



I'm not sure what else fruitarians eat. What else is in your diet? What's your main source of protein and grains?
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The rationale for and the benefits of fruitarianism have scientific basis.



I know that is not what you want to hear, but since you posted to a public board you are going to get opinions.



However, don't take my word for it.



Jack Norris, a vegan and a registered dietician has a site called veganhealth.org



You can read this short article to learn what all of the nutrients you need are:

http://www.veganhealth.org/shv/



You can then use this site to see if various fruits you have access to have those nutrients in the quantities you need:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/



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I'm sorry but I don't understand what this part of your post means:



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The rationale for and the benefits of fruitarianism have scientific basis.



I know that is not what you want to hear, but since you posted to a public board you are going to get opinions.



What isn't what I want to hear, in your opinion?
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I moved this over to the Raw and Living Foods forum because it seemed a better fit there.
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#6 Old 01-25-2005, 10:49 PM
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i may be wrong on this, but isn't it the fruitarian belief that protein is actually bad for you. or at least the processing your body needs to do to it, which leads to cellular degeneration - aging. thus the reason for eating only fruit.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruitarian



wikipedia doesn't have all that much positive to say about it.
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I'm sorry but I don't understand what this part of your post means:

What isn't what I want to hear, in your opinion?



Raw foodists and fruitarians I have met ( I was one myself for 1 year when I was teenager ) do not want to hear that the reasons for doing those regimes are not based on scientific studies, in fact those reasons contradict known science, and that the benefits claimed for those regimes have not been established through scientific studies.

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Raw foodists and fruitarians I have met ( I was one myself for 1 year when I was teenager ) do not want to hear that the reasons for doing those regimes are not based on scientific studies, in fact those reasons contradict known science, and that the benefits claimed for those regimes have not been established through scientific studies.



Well, there's the confusion. You said this:



" The rationale for and the benefits of fruitarianism have scientific basis."



I guess you forgot a word?
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Well, there's the confusion. You said this:



" The rationale for and the benefits of fruitarianism have scientific basis."



I guess you forgot a word?



Yes, all I had that was raw food

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I didn't even know there was a thing called a "fruitarian!" I just want to know how large a percentage of the diet can be fruit and still have a healthy diet....
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I didn't even know there was a thing called a "fruitarian!"



i recently discovered there are people called breatharians too, no kidding, that supposedly thrive on mere air - different strokes and all that i guess.
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i recently discovered there are people called breatharians too, no kidding, that supposedly thrive on mere air - different strokes and all that i guess.



Yep, not many of them.......for obvious reasons

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i recently discovered there are people called breatharians too, no kidding, that supposedly thrive on mere air - different strokes and all that i guess.



Seriously? lol. Two of my friends were joking with me that this what a level 10 vegan is. Do you have a source? I need to see this.
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I didn't even know there was a thing called a "fruitarian!" I just want to know how large a percentage of the diet can be fruit and still have a healthy diet....



Ah, sorry, I assumed you were since the topic of the thread is "Fruitarian?"
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Seriously? lol. Two of my friends were joking with me that this what a level 10 vegan is. Do you have a source? I need to see this.



http://www.breatharian.com/breatharianism2.htm

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Oh yes, the good old Breatharians.
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Also called anorexics by doctors.
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I'm a semi-breatharian (or flexitharian) since more of my time is spent breathing than eating.
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I'm a semi-breatharian (or flexitharian) since more of my time is spent breathing than eating.



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Also called anorexics by doctors.



Exactly.
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I'm sorry but I don't understand what this part of your post means:







What isn't what I want to hear, in your opinion?



I think he meant what followed the sentence was not going to be what you want to hear.... Ie., look for yourself, trying to build a diet out of fruits that provide nutrients you need....



(If only it were so easy -- protein isn't just protein, but has several components that combine to make a "complete protein". You also need to know that beta carotene is used by your body to make vitamin A -- the vitamin A is not going to be in the fruit as "vitamin A". I am sure there's more I don't know about yet... )
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i may be wrong on this, but isn't it the fruitarian belief that protein is actually bad for you. or at least the processing your body needs to do to it, which leads to cellular degeneration - aging. thus the reason for eating only fruit.



I've seen that..... but that's not the only reason people would become fruitarian. A lot of people do not believe in killing any form of life, including plants, and youu can eat fruit without hurting the plant.
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Oh yes, the good old Breatharians.



How long has "Breatharianism" been around???
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I don't know, I just keep running across it on every messageboard...



Hey, does anyone know how many total servings of food one should have a day?
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Approximately 2000 - 2500 calories worth....
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Approximately 2000 - 2500 calories worth....



That seems to be a little much. Isn't that more than the average woman needs in a day? Assuming she's not an athlete.
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I don't know, I just keep running across it on every messageboard...



Hey, does anyone know how many total servings of food one should have a day?



Enought to maintain your weight if you are healthy or enough to gain weight if you are underweight. Less, enough to lose at max a pound a week if you are overweight.



Calorie requirement formulas are famous for being inaccurate.



Get a note book, count calories and weigh yourself once a week for a few weeks to get your figure.

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That seems to be a little much. Isn't that more than the average woman needs in a day? Assuming she's not an athlete.



Most sources I've seen suggest 2000-2500 calories per day depending on your weight, height, BMI, and level of activity. I am slightly above average build, though. (Read "slightly" ) If you're a 5 ft., 130 lb. female, your requirements will probably be a little lower, but no, 2000 calories per day really is not that extravagant of an amount.





ETA: Beforewisdom has a better approach. Estimate what your calorie intake is before making this diet change and then see how much you would need to be eating in order to maintain your current calorie intake. Adjust accordingly. (The greater your adjustment, the more difficulty you're going to have going on a new diet.)
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Thank you for those suggestions.
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