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#1 Old 12-30-2015, 07:07 PM
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Considering an switch to veganism

Hey everyone, I'm going to be honest and admit I'm a full blown omnivore....I tried vegetarianism about 10 years ago, but I was lazy about it and ate pasta, cheese pizza and stir fry.


So, I've been wrestling with the ethics of eating meat, and can no longer ignore the horrid sight of seeing truck loads of pigs and cows on their way to slaughter.

Go big or go home right? I have been doing research on veganism and I'm excited for this journey. I'm going out tomorrow to buy groceries and start meal planning.

However, and I know this may be how I'm conditioned to think, but I cannot get over the thought of eating 8 bananas in a single smoothie. I've been watching YouTube videos and the amount of fruit that is eaten seems extreme... Like a girl pulled out an 8 lb bag of oranges and called tht 2.5 servings.

If this normal?!

I understand vegans eat more carbs than what I'm used to eating, but that seems like an extreme amount of (albeit natural) sugar.

My plans for meals were going to go like this:

A fruit smoothie with homemade almond milk and chia seeds and some sort of leafy green like spinach or kale, a lunch of a salad with darn greens and avocado for fats, and dinner some sort of hot quinoa meal with veggies and beans or something. Obviously I'd switch it up and have some tofu stirfry and whatnot...

Do all vegans eat like, entire watermelons in one sitting??!! Or like, 8 mangos?

I understand you need to ensure you're getting enough calories, but calories from fruit will still make you gain weight if you eat more calories than you consume, right?!

Help! I don't want to fail.

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#2 Old 12-30-2015, 07:40 PM
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Veganism does NOT require you to eat a bunch of bananas (or whatever fruit) in one sitting. I never do, and pretty sure most people that post regularly on this forum don't either.
As for your meal plan: A salad for lunch here and there is OK, but don't make it a habit to eat just a salad for lunch on a daily basis as you will probably not be able to get the calories you need (and will end up feeling faint).
Check the "What did you eat vegan today?" thread on the vegan support forum for ideas.

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Help! I don't want to fail.
It can be easier to become vegan by starting with meatless version of your favorite dishes. Pasta, tacos, and stew can be made with crumbled meatless burger patties, which are sold at nearly all grocery stories. Dairy-free milk and ice cream can also be found at most grocery stores. Be aware that some of these processed vegan foods can be high in added fat and sugar.

A fruit-centered vegan diet can be done, but mainstream vegan organizations recommend a more balanced diet of beans, whole grains, fruit, and vegetables.

Mercy For Animals has a beautiful Vegetarian Starter Guide (it's actually vegan). The nutrition part of the guide starts on page 6: http://www.mercyforanimals.org/files/VSG.pdf
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Specific recommendations for a healthy diet include: eating more fruit, vegetables, legumes, nuts and grains; cutting down on salt, sugar and fats. It is also advisable to choose unsaturated fats, instead of saturated fats and towards the elimination of trans-fatty acids."
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#4 Old 12-30-2015, 08:08 PM
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Most of the vegans who eat huge amounts of fruit in a sitting are raw vegans so it really only applies to that type of eating. There are so many different diet plans for vegans I think one of the most popular is the raw till four plan. Eating all raw, natural fruits, veggies, smoothies, juices and snacks throughout the day and then eating your cooked carbs like rice, beans, stir fry, quinoa, potato etc for dinner. There's many ways to eat vegan- Raw vegans, frugivores (only fruit eaters), raw till four, junk food vegans etc. Research them and find one that works best for you and your body.
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I could not never eat that much fruit, or that much raw. Wouldn't like it, even though there are some raw vegans here who sound like they do great.
As David said, learn to rethink meals. I eat tofu, seitan, tempeh, all kinds of beans, lentils, whole grains, --I didn't eat those kinds of foods when I ate meat. I basically eat the same types of foods, with those instead of meat. It's a big learning curve to get tastes and textures right. Soups, casseroles, seitan roasts, salads, sandwiches, all vegan ways of prep. more spices and herbs.
there are as many ways to do plant based as there are omnivore ways of diet.
Here are some of my favorite recipe sites-
http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/http://....blogspot.com/
http://www.veganricha.com/
and do your research on nutrition--
http://www.vegansociety.com/resource...ients/overview
http://www.veganhealth.org/
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Thanks everyone!! I got a little overwhelmed by the carb loading a lot of raw til 4 vegans preached about in the videos I've watched. I Know this is partially how I've been conditioned to view foods.

To be honest, ive never had a healthy relationship with food and eating.... I've never really been "fat" but I'm always heavier than I want to be. I have read veganism helps improve people's relationships with food, which is also what I'm looking forward to.

I'm most definitely going to read all the links you've sent me. I'm actually thinking of starting a blogabout my transition...more so for my own accountability than anything...but I'm undecided.
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Please don't think that YouTube diet gurus like Freelee represent vegans! That's not how most vegans eat. Honestly, we eat the same stuff as everyone else: pasta, pizza, burgers, burritos, bagels, sandwiches, chilli, stir fries, curries. It isn't at all normal to eat fifteen mangoes in one sitting. Some people do and that's cool, I guess, but please don't feel like you can't be vegan if you don't eat massive amounts of fruit.
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Hi Janene and welcome!

I would recommend not following the advice of videos on Youtube and other personal blogs in what to eat as a vegan. You'd be far better off with reading books like these (see below) that include studies and sound nutritional advice that does not cater to one way of eating vegan (you can buy most of these used for very cheap on Amazon.com or find them at your local library for free):

http://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Vegan.../dp/1570671036

Vegan for Life: Everything You Need to Know to Be Healthy and Fit on a Plant-Based Diet

Main Street Vegan: Everything You Need to Know to Eat Healthfully and Live Compassionately in the Real World

Also check out these sites:
http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/vegan.htm

http://veganfoodpyramid.com/

http://www.vegancoach.com/vegan-nutrition.html


Very few people can thrive long going from a SAD to all fruitarian or raw instantly. In fact a lot of people who ate very healthy vegan before have a hard time thriving when they dabble in all raw for long term. It isn't necessarily for everyone, and there are arguments against it.

You can still eat a lot of fruits and vegetables without eating ONLY those throughout the day. I find that staples like beans, nuts/seeds, whole grains, and dishes like soups, casseroles, homemade veggie burgers, etc are satiating, energy giving, endurance building, and far more sustainable for me. I have dabbled in all raw also after I was already vegan for a few years (once all fruitarian and the other try including sprouted raw grains and nuts/seeds) and I still found it very difficult to adhere to. I was already eating five to seven servings of fruits and vegetables before, and when I tried all raw I was eating up to fifteen servings of fruits and veggies and let me tell you my body revolted with many painful bathroom visits throughout the day lol. If one really wants to eat all raw, a gradual approach is probably a much wiser idea.
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However, and I know this may be how I'm conditioned to think, but I cannot get over the thought of eating 8 bananas in a single smoothie. I've been watching YouTube videos and the amount of fruit that is eaten seems extreme... Like a girl pulled out an 8 lb bag of oranges and called tht 2.5 servings.

If this normal?!
No. I barely even eat fruit. I probably should eat more but I don't think I eat 30 bananas a year, let alone a day.
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Be careful of some of the Youtube channels out there, some are extremely focused on their little 'corner' of veganism and preach that their way is the best and only way. There are other channels worth watching out there which are less dogmatic and critical and more user friendly for newbs, though you may need to search for them as they're typically less histrionic and don't as much attention as the more melodramatic diet gurus get.

I like Cooking With Plants (she tends to avoid oil though that's not a necessity to vegan diet): https://www.youtube.com/user/cookingwithplants

Also Mary's Test Kitchen: https://www.youtube.com/user/marystestkitchen

Unnatural Vegan does some nicely rounded 'what I ate in a day' videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJB...1WeipWMBWKJ7Rg

Cheap Lazy Vegan does some good down to earth foodie vids: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEj...O_OIUaSWRxFZ3A
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