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#91 Old 08-15-2008, 03:10 PM
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^^^Oh, okay. Thanks!

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#92 Old 08-16-2008, 03:57 AM
 
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Wait, is it September already?

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"Vegans all over her".......... VEGAN ORGY!!!

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#94 Old 08-16-2008, 05:21 AM
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Hrmm... just checked out the site. Even ignoring the who "anti-vegan" thing it's not exactly packed with information, is it? The "what can I eat" page pretty much only says "anything that isn't meat!". Duh? How about food groups, nutrition, recipes... you know, helpful stuff?

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Hrmm... just checked out the site. Even ignoring the who "anti-vegan" thing it's not exactly packed with information, is it? The "what can I eat" page pretty much only says "anything that isn't meat!". Duh? How about food groups, nutrition, recipes... you know, helpful stuff?



My dad, who as you know is a nuclear physicist, feels the same way about it.

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"Vegans all over her".......... VEGAN ORGY!!!







*gasp*



Doesn't sound like a bad time.



I don't see what the fuss is about!



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My dad, who as you know is a nuclear physicist, feels the same way about it.



*smacks Irizary in the back of the head*



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#98 Old 08-16-2008, 12:54 PM
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Im mostly concerned that, since it's obviously a pro-vegetarian site, it might have enough credibility to persuade people not to worry that much about animal treatment in the egg and dairy industries. Its tempting to discount evidence that ones lifestyle should change, if it looks like that change will be hard.



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That was my biggest concern about the site as well.

I grew up vegetarian and was vegetarian for 26 years.

I had no idea why I was vegetarian - I was just that way

because I grew up that way. Eating meat seemed gross, but dairy

was delicious. I didn't even realize until 2 months ago what animals were

going through etc... I immediately cut out all dairy/honey and am working to

become a full vegan in my everyday life.

If I had read that site my ignorance of animal suffering would have

continued on and I would still be a omelet loving vegetarian.

JMO of course, but I had no love for that leafy site.
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#99 Old 08-19-2008, 05:55 AM
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I am so glad that helped you! I know eating out is SUPER tough when you are vegan. Ive had dining experiences that were super awkward where I just ordered a soda because I needed some sort of caloric intake haha. What usually works is ask for the house salad and then their list of dressing, or sneak in your own I do that to be absolutely sure.



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Hi all



I'm new here but just wanted to chip in. I know the people behind that website and they have a very strong agenda aside from the vegetarianism.

Their 'leader', Iain Scott, considers himself a bit of a guru with special powers and (last I heard) is 'married' to at least two women who volunteer for the charity (Rebecca Lincoln Scott and Sarah Scott, who have both taken his name). His overseas volunteers work very long hours, unpaid, with no days off. All his 'volunteers' are expected to participate in very intensive (I would say invasive) workshop-style meetings.



If you want to check it out for yourself, you could read Iain Scott's book, Human Potential - wherein he talks about an extraterrestrial experience he believes he has had, which has made him enlightened, etc:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Human-Potent.../dp/1899131019



Or feel free to ask me personally if you have any questions.



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If you want to check it out for yourself, you could read Iain Scott's book, Human Potential - wherein he talks about an extraterrestrial experience he believes he has had,

Something wrong with that? I have an extraterrestrial experience whenever I go to my garage to talk to Zegryb203.

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Milk production obviously involves cows first giving birth to calves. These babies are separated from their mothers and this can cause some degree of short-term distress. Out of the male calves, most will be “surplus to requirement” for the dairy industry and end up as part of the meat supply. Similarly, free-range egg production involves the need for some fertile eggs to be laid; again, the majority of the male chicks will be “surplus to requirement” and they are immediately killed. A vegan believes that a vegetarian who eats dairy products and/or free-range eggs is taking part in this animal cruelty. But is this necessarily true?



Erm yes it is true. That site is weird, I have never read any veggie forum be so dismissive of veganism especially for ethical/ cruelty reasons.



I just noticed it is an English site! I have never heard of it before.
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#104 Old 09-23-2008, 03:48 PM
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Their 'leader', Iain Scott, considers himself a bit of a guru with special powers and (last I heard) is 'married' to at least two women who volunteer for the charity (Rebecca Lincoln Scott and Sarah Scott, who have both taken his name). His overseas volunteers work very long hours, unpaid, with no days off. All his 'volunteers' are expected to participate in very intensive (I would say invasive) workshop-style meetings.



i knew i smelled weirdness when i read that site, and that it wasn't coming from me.
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Just a note: I deleted the crazy spammer lady's post earlier in this thread, and took out the posts that were responding to it as well.

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