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#1 Old 05-15-2008, 05:27 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/15/sam...age/index.html



It's a start



I am worried about the backlash, however...

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shocking -- that they actually ruled in favor that is.
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I live in California and was actually surprised by the ruling. Though happy about it. I listen to KGO Newstalk San Francisco a lot. Of coarse it has been the subject most discussed today.



They are already talking about a constitutional amendment on the ballot for November to shoot this down. Why? Why? Why? Some guy actually called in this afternoon to state that this made his marriage devalued and he felt as though his marriage didn't mean as much anymore. That is just pathetic. I almost feel sorry for him.



Yes, the backlash has already started. It's always the same arguments: Next people can marry their dog, marry their mother, multiple partner marriages. blah blah blah. Recruiting our kids. More B.S.



We'll have to wait and she what happens.
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Yay for CA!
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Yes, the backlash has already started. It's always the same arguments: Next people can marry their dog, marry their mother, multiple partner marriages. blah blah blah. Recruiting our kids. More B.S.



I never have figured out those arguments.... one's between consenting non-related adults (which marriage has always [mostly] been) -- the other's not.
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everyone agrees here! This is no fun...



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Some guy actually called in this afternoon to state that this made his marriage devalued and he felt as though his marriage didn't mean as much anymore.



I've never understood how anyone or anything could possibly devalue someone else's marriage. That way of thinking has never made any sense to me at all. To say that something that doesn't even apply to you makes your marriage mean less is just plain ignorant.

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Yay! This makes me feel happy to live in CA.
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I'm a christian and I think it's wonderful! I'm a fierce supporter of separation of church and state. Religious matter is for the churches. The state shouldn't care what sex you are if you want to enter into a legal contract.
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I've never understood how anyone or anything could possibly devalue someone else's marriage. That way of thinking has never made any sense to me at all. To say that something that doesn't even apply to you makes your marriage mean less is just plain ignorant.



The fact that blacks can vote makes me feel like my right to vote as a white chick has been devalued. DEVALUED, I SAY.



What do two people getting married have to do with you, anyways? Some people...
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Yay, yay, yay, yay! I have been celebrating all day!
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Way to go CA!
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Yay, yay, yay, yay! I have been celebrating all day!



What sort of celebrating?
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Cute pup in you picture Poppy!



Someone called in later to say about what you stated regarding this man's call. He was odd. Had a strange tone to his voice. Kind of creepy. Lots of those types out there though.
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I was thrilled to get on my computer this evening and read a news story announcing this!

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cool.
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I heard about the backlash in the same sentence I heard the news, unfortunately, and that made it slightly less enjoyable, but it's still a step in the right direction.
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how two people getting married could possibly upset some people that don't even know them just completely baffles me. "omg, they are of the same sex, that ruins my day!" oh, okay.
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Really glad to hear about it. I also don't understand why these religious groups think it matters so much. If they are not in a gay marriage, why does it affect them at all? The gays aren't hurting anyone. I'm glad to be a Progressive Jew!

Why was that ridiculous law brought in in 2000, anyway? Just curious as to why it was only made illegal then and not before?
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I think some people hate the marriage thing because they think it means they'll finally be having sex -- because no one ever has sex out of marriage; so by letting them get married we're letting them have sex!
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Good. It is a start. As if it should even be a question. It is frustrating that it is even an issue. Of course something has to be an issue. There has to be a way for people to get on a side, to be part of a group by forcing others out of it.
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Good for CA!!! Sadly Florida has a "marriage amendment" on the ballot this Nov. I sure hope people vote against it! But it is Florida.....

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I am so sick of these progressive liberals with their equal rights and justice. How am i supposed to get any work done as a conservative regressive with all these homosexuals always tempting me.
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I'm happy! I support gay marriage 100%. George Carlin had a really funny skit saying that Christians and Gay people should be natural allies... who has less abortions than gay people?



This whole skit is one of my favs, but the part that fits this conversation is at 7:33 .



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.....Christians and Gay people should be natural allies... who has less unplanned pregnancies than gay people?...



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Voters will decide on gay marriage

By Jack Leonard, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

June 3, 2008

Setting the stage for a political showdown, the California secretary of state today said an initiative barring gay marriage had enough signatures to qualify for the Nov. 4 ballot.



The proposal would amend the state Constitution to define marriage as a union "between a man and a woman" and undo last month's historic California Supreme Court ruling, which found that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation was unconstitutional.



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It's about time!



Gay marriage has been legal in Canada since 2005 (and is legal in some other countries, and I believe in some states in the US). Let me assure you, nothing happened, there was no downfall of civilization, people haven't started marrying their dogs, people valued their marriages just the same.



Sheesh. Some people.
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#29 Old 06-03-2008, 11:42 AM
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It's about time!



Gay marriage has been legal in Canada since 2005 (and is legal in some other countries, and I believe in some states in the US). Let me assure you, nothing happened, there was no downfall of civilization, people haven't started marrying their dogs, people valued their marriages just the same.



Sheesh. Some people.



The downfall won't happen till polygamy is widely practiced
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Voters will decide on gay marriage

By Jack Leonard, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

June 3, 2008

Setting the stage for a political showdown, the California secretary of state today said an initiative barring gay marriage had enough signatures to qualify for the Nov. 4 ballot.



The proposal would amend the state Constitution to define marriage as a union "between a man and a woman" and undo last month's historic California Supreme Court ruling, which found that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation was unconstitutional.



I don't really understand under what premise they are trying to ban gay marriage. Isn't the government's job to protect us and not dictate what is (im)moral?
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