People can do whatever they wish in regards to the flu shot. The flu is very unlikely to kill them, especially if they are not high risk. But the idea that getting the flu will make your immunity stronger vs the idea that getting a vacination will not, is nonsense. There is also a misunderstanding between associating an overuse of antibiotics leading to stronger strains and a belief that vaccination would lead to stronger strains as well. That is wrong.
Originally Posted by bethanie
Germs and illness actually can help to build our immunity if they are met with a body that has been primarily active and well, and also had a nutritious diet.
What happens when you naturally acquire an illness is that your body is exposed to an antigen and develops its own antibodies against the pathogen, retains a memory of this antigen so that in the future it can quickly produce more antibodies upon a future exposure to the antigen.
In the case of vaccination or artificial immunity the EXACT same thing happens in the body. It is exposed to a weakened or dead pathogen which forces the body to develop the exact same antibodies, retain the exact same memory so that if the body comes in contact in the future it can quickly produce more antibodies from a future exposure and quickly fight it off.
So a vaccination will help build your immunity the same way as exposure will. The only difference is that you don't get sick. Getting sick doesn't strengthen your immune system - developing antibodies does. When it comes to making antibodies it doesn't matter whether the antigen was strong, weak or dead. You are no stronger or better prepared to fend off the world because on top of developing antibodies you also had a fever, cough, diarrhea etc.
It was funny that her body knew what she needed.
Just because the body has evolved a defence mechanism doesn't mean that the body benefits from having that mechanism strained. Yes the body can in most cases fight off the flu, but it also used the same defence mechanism to try to fight off things like smallpox with a much worse success ratio. People who survived smallpox in the past were no stronger from the ordeal - they simply had immunity from smallpox in the future. People who were vaccinated against smallpox were no weaker from not going through the ordeal, they had the same immunity.
Our body also knows what is needed in the case of massive blood loss - it shunts blood to the core trying to save the most vital organs and doesn't worry about all of the rest of the organs. If you are lucky and you naturally manage to clot the place where you were losing blood you might survive, but you will never be stronger from the ordeal, in fact you will probably suffer for the rest of life. The unnatural way to do it is to give the patient IV fluids, blood, inotropic and vasopressor drugs to ensure that all of their organs are being perfused with oxygen so those organs do not become necrotic and then fix the "leak." Those people are not weaker because they were healed in an unnatural way.
I was a student when there was an ecoli outbreak years ago. I have met a couple of the children who survived. They no longer have a functioning liver or kidneys and will be on dialysis for the rest of their lives. They are not stronger from the ordeal.
One of my big issues with modern medicine is that we have overmedicated. Antibiotics for every infection...which happen to cause diseases to mutate into more difficult to treat diseases.
This is true. Modern medicine is concerned with the overuse of antibiotics. But, just as concerned with the underuse of antibiotics. A lot of cases of mutation are due to patients not finishing their treatment. Plus the overuse of antibiotics is far more prevalent in agriculture than in humans. But this has little to do with vaccinations. Viruses etc that we vaccinate against do not mutate more because they come in contact with more people who are protected by antibodies, in fact they should mutate far less because they are finding fewer hosts and reproducing less.
We've lost faith in the bodies fervent impulse to heal itself...when it kind of does quite well...particularly from viral issues.
I would argue that we have come to understand the limitations of body to heal itself. Faith didn't protect people against smallpox, antibodies did.