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O, and I started viewing porn (introduced by friends) at.... 8? maybe? perhaps even younger. Certainly didn't see it much of ever at that time.
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Hm, this sure brings back old memories of exploring the net over the years.



All that mainstream porn that's tailored to guys these days....

Meh, they make me sick actually. Only someone who's "Curious" would be pulled in, trapped, and addicted....or at least, that's what I noticed with curious teen guys.



It's good to hear that there's "alternative porn" which is usually on a positive atmosphere.



Oh, and to those who seek a vegan-based porn, I present to you folks:







Hahah, though there are only sample pics and stuff liek that, there's a message board too, and the admin's quite informative about stuff going about, especially in the porn industry. I really love the atmosphere of fairness, where no one is segregated by their natural and harmless appearances.



Yes, I actually research about the pornography, and whatnot, though I got many things to say, perhaps most of them have already been discussed about by various peoples already on this topic.



Then again, though back in those young days, I was wondering about sexuality and stuff like that, I'm just relieved that I never had access to the mainstream nasty stuff, but as for the last few years, my attitude became less misguided, and so my intentions of watching too......and I end up moving myself to the alternative stuff instead.



But.....I have a mom who's around, though I am already of legal age....meh, I really don't want her comparing me to my "dad" (who's long gone, and DANG, he LOVED the nasty mainstream porn, that he negatively influenced in a way that my mom kicked him out alright).



Yeah, I just hate the whole "beauty standards" in your usual mainstream porn, and with the whole atmopshere of "who's wily is bigger, makes better," BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH! SEGREGATION IS BAD AS RACISM! PREPARE FOR WOOOHH DAAO! *bursts into a flaming comet and brings mischief*



*ahem* aside from my intentional sarcasm....I even hear teens talking about sexuality, where I sense that misguided aura of "beauty standards, big willies" blah blah blah. It'll even affect high school guys alright, like back in the old days. Making it all seem like having a girlfriend is for "the hot guys," where I got ridiculed a lot, or some envied at me, just because of some false rumour of me, having a girlfriend, which I am single.



Yep, it goes this far folks. Everything is connected. I see where it goes, and I talk in generalizations, where I ask of you to go with your instincts, and you'll see where it reaches, and where it goes.



Ok, back to the general question. Do all guys watch porn? I guess, nowadays, where the people have access to the internet, while so many people use Windose, as an operating system (that I found so flawed, that I'm going with Linux), while many, or some, not familiar with great defense tactics against malware, and the like...............



Those porn ads, will come and raid a person's comp if security is unoptimal. So I guess that may start the exposure to wandering young teens who start off with the internet...during nowadays I guess.



So it's basically access and whatnot. And with the rigged & flawed Google search engine (flawed, as in......well....there are some privacy breaches, but that's something else, which I will not mention here), well, few words: "sex" "porn" .....etc....should start it all off...........



Meh, as for me, I rather watch something where a couple just go at it, with unconditional love, without any negative auras in it, and I'll be satisfied. But nowadays, I easily abstain from it, as it's hard to find the alternative stuff, personally, and my mom's around, always checking up on me. But whatever, I got some programming to master (starting with C ++), and lots of gaming to go at. *whee*



Just my rambling folks.
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I have a similar situation, in that I make my own videos, in which I usually sport a Nixon mask and engage in some very perverse relations with my kitchen utensils. But I'm not in a relationship, so instead of giving the vids to my partner, I make copies and distribute them in the mailboxes around my neighbourhood. Usually when I'm at the store, people have a weird grin on their face.



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I have seen pictures, but generally not in the moving form. Still, I am not a horny freak 24/7 and I do not look at porn daily.



I would go with the others on the preference of reading erotica. I like literature and writing, so erotic stories have more appeal to me.
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I like literature and writing, so erotic stories have more appeal to me.



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Come and sit on my knee and I'll tell you one.



Wow! I honestly do not know how to respond to that....





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I'm a bit burnt out on porn too.

It's all so samey(sp?).

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All men watch porn. According to myths, there was a man named Park Seung-Yoo who lived in Busan, Korea from 1623 to 1641, who never watched pornography, probably due to his early death by accidental drowning at an age just over 18, shortly after becoming a man. However, most historian agree that the legend of Park never having watched pornography is a myth, and that he probably did watch at least some prior to his death.
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All men watch porn. According to myths, there was a man named Park Seung-Yoo who lived in Busan, Korea from 1623 to 1641, who never watched pornography, probably due to his early death by accidental drowning at an age just over 18, shortly after becoming a man. However, most historian agree that the legend of Park never having watched pornography is a myth, and that he probably did watch at least some prior to his death.

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Uh, I don't watch porn (I'm a girl), but it's because it does nothing for me. I imagine there's some guys who feel the same. My friend Ryan from high school was quite skeezed out by it.



Did he later come out to be gay? Just curious.
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Well... I'm a girl and I don't find any interest in watching porn.

My boyfriend used to watch porn, and stopped.
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I don't know about you or anyone else, but I'm not having sex "for the best interest of society"

Neither did I claim such motives. I was talking about throwing out all taboos and promoting that as an improvement. I did not advocate prohibition either.

I do think though that many people take the issue very lightly. I was not talking about adults watching standard porn flicks.



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I don't understand... is someone forcing you or anyone else to watch porn? If you don't enjoy it, then by all means avoid it.

I said that there are people who do not enjoy (all or some kinds of, violent, rape, etc.) porn, in response to several people who claimed it was something everybody loved or had to enjoy. Maybe I misinterpreted some things in their statements, but you were clearly turning around my statements. And I did not condemn any adult responsibly watching porn, or advocate condemnation either.



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I consider myself a feminist, but maybe not the kind you were looking for. I don't easily condemn expressions of sexuality because I don't see it as all black or white.

I was not looking for any kind of feminist, but you and wuzzles would be the first feminists I ever met who actually defend pornography. PorNO after all is a standard feminist mantra isnt it. I think many here still sound like people in Germany in the 70s, before porn was legalized, when most predicted that the liberalization would result in less sexual violence. Well it did not, it mainly lead to desensitisation esp. since the online market opened.



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Like I've said already (in other posts, not this one), I don't see a problem with porn if it's viewed responsibily (it should not affect a person's existing sex-life,

There I see a problem with the overexposure to it. It interferes with youngsters' sex-life long before they actually have one, today teenagers and even younger ones are consuming porn (mainly online) long before they start having sex, and many base their values and expectations (and later their actions) on what they see there, especially if they do not have parents to whom they can talk about sexuality. I think children should not learn about sexuality and relationships from porn, but learn what they need to know about relationships and get basic education about sexuality first from their parents and also in school. Im from a liberal Christian background (not so sure if this combination exists in the US), and while I knew that I could ask my parents anything (not that I always did) and was not much embarrassed when watching a love scene in a movie as a teen, I am (as an elderly adult, hehe) more and more disgusted by the state of things now, and fear where this might lead to and what will become of children who grow up like that.

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And wait... you don't like trash tv? *hehe* My bf and I love to make fun of it. Most of the bleeping out is from the audience. Do they randomly just shout out cuss words? It's weird.

Well moral standards are different here, like I mentioned nudity itself is not generally considered immoral, which is great like when I am at a beach where all people choose to be naked, etc. Sexuality itself is not tabooed as much as it seems to be in the US (media) either, which is good when it comes to sex education in school, etc.

But this permissiveness also leads to daytime TV reports about SM prostitution and talk shows where people discuss things no child imho should hear let alone see. And it leads to people thinking porn is rather harmless, and restrictions would be worse.

Many even young children have TV/computers in their rooms here, and many parents dont check what they watch let alone discuss what they (can or have) see(n).

I think this overexposure to sexual contents and images is dangerous for them and like you mentioned it desensitizes people. Of course this is to blame as much on the lacking responsibility of many parents who simply neglect their kids. But the industry is not so innocent either as they have no interest in protecting kids from it, because they are (future) customers

Many kids here are listening to rap with lyrics that mainly glorify rape, and are exchanging porn films on their mobile phones like nothing, and more are making their own films, incl. rape.

When I was in high school teachers had to control school toilets to prevent demolition and drug sale/abuse, today they likelier have to prevent porn film making in action.



I just do not feel like joining in the general chime how 100% great porn is. You all do what you want, I never objected to responsible porn viewing or making, and Im certainly not predicting you hell or anything like the crazy TV preachers overthere seem to. But I feel free to question a general need for porn for every adult that some seemed to promote I thought, and I feel a need to address that this is not just about we are all so mature and liberal and happy lalalaaa but about children and teenagers being exposed to contents they cannot handle, too. Maybe not in the US, but where I live.



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Neither did I claim such motives. I was talking about throwing out all taboos and promoting that as an improvement. I did not advocate prohibition either.

I do think though that many people take the issue very lightly. I was not talking about adults watching standard porn flicks.





I said that there are people who do not enjoy (all or some kinds of, violent, rape, etc.) porn, in response to several people who claimed it was something everybody loved or had to enjoy. Maybe I misinterpreted some things in their statements, but you were clearly turning around my statements. And I did not condemn any adult responsibly watching porn, or advocate condemnation either.





I was not looking for any kind of feminist, but you and wuzzles would be the first feminists I ever met who actually defend pornography. PorNO after all is a standard feminist mantra isnt it. I think many here still sound like people in Germany in the 70s, before porn was legalized, when most predicted that the liberalization would result in less sexual violence. Well it did not, it mainly lead to desensitisation esp. since the online market opened.





There I see a problem with the overexposure to it. It interferes with youngsters' sex-life long before they actually have one, today teenagers and even younger ones are consuming porn (mainly online) long before they start having sex, and many base their values and expectations (and later their actions) on what they see there, especially if they do not have parents to whom they can talk about sexuality. I think children should not learn about sexuality and relationships from porn, but learn what they need to know about relationships and get basic education about sexuality first from their parents and also in school. Im from a liberal Christian background (not so sure if this combination exists in the US), and while I knew that I could ask my parents anything (not that I always did) and was not much embarrassed when watching a love scene in a movie as a teen, I am (as an elderly adult, hehe) more and more disgusted by the state of things now, and fear where this might lead to and what will become of children who grow up like that.



Well moral standards are different here, like I mentioned nudity itself is not generally considered immoral, which is great like when I am at a beach where all people choose to be naked, etc. Sexuality itself is not tabooed as much as it seems to be in the US (media) either, which is good when it comes to sex education in school, etc.

But this permissiveness also leads to daytime TV reports about SM prostitution and talk shows where people discuss things no child imho should hear let alone see. And it leads to people thinking porn is rather harmless, and restrictions would be worse.

Many even young children have TV/computers in their rooms here, and many parents dont check what they watch let alone discuss what they (can or have) see(n).

I think this overexposure to sexual contents and images is dangerous for them and like you mentioned it desensitizes people. Of course this is to blame as much on the lacking responsibility of many parents who simply neglect their kids. But the industry is not so innocent either as they have no interest in protecting kids from it, because they are (future) customers

Many kids here are listening to rap with lyrics that mainly glorify rape, and are exchanging porn films on their mobile phones like nothing, and more are making their own films, incl. rape.

When I was in high school teachers had to control school toilets to prevent demolition and drug sale/abuse, today they likelier have to prevent porn film making in action.



I just do not feel like joining in the general chime how 100% great porn is. You all do what you want, I never objected to responsible porn viewing or making, and Im certainly not predicting you hell or anything like the crazy TV preachers overthere seem to. But I feel free to question a general need for porn for every adult that some seemed to promote I thought, and I feel a need to address that this is not just about we are all so mature and liberal and happy lalalaaa but about children and teenagers being exposed to contents they cannot handle, too. Maybe not in the US, but where I live.



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you mix up the problem even though you identify what it is: lack of supervision and attention to what young children see on TV and elsewhere. the problem isn't porn, rather the problem is people not taking the time to be good parents.



the net has made it more accessible to everyone. so, parents need to supervise young kids on the computer. again, the problem there is supervision and parenting.



but teens just are never gonna be supervised like a young child. the net makes it accessible, but many teens probably saw some type of porn in the past before the net too. i think teens can handle it better than you think. i saw porn on the net when i was a teen and i think all my friends did too. i'm only 1/2 psychotic because of it
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not trying to agrue with anyone and i am not perfect i have watched it but in a realsonship how is looking at naked women or whatever and getting off to it not cheating so your just looking at pictures and videos of it and getting off just not being there makes it ok right once again not trying to agrue just it confusses me if you loved someone why cant you just wait right anyway if you want to debate this pm me please
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Neither did I claim such motives. I was talking about throwing out all taboos and promoting that as an improvement. I did not advocate prohibition either.

I do think though that many people take the issue very lightly. I was not talking about adults watching standard porn flicks.



I do think throwing off the label of 'taboo' with regards to pornography would be an immediate improvement. We can't, after all, have open and honest dialogue about a subject while at the same time oppressing it and it's supporters. I am curious, though, as to what you mean by "many people take the issue very lightly". And what do you consider "standard porn flicks"? What is standard? And what is not?





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I said that there are people who do not enjoy (all or some kinds of, violent, rape, etc.) porn, in response to several people who claimed it was something everybody loved or had to enjoy. Maybe I misinterpreted some things in their statements, but you were clearly turning around my statements. And I did not condemn any adult responsibly watching porn, or advocate condemnation either.



I didn't see anyone in this thread making statements about violent/rape porn being something everyone loved. And are you speaking of actual 'snuff' videos of real forced sex ... or roleplaying sex? I'd think the former to be illegal and I'd hope that if anyone saw a video of actual rape or torture that they would turn it over to the police. I was not 'clearly' doing anything but trying my best to respond to your statements which are kind of all over the place.



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I was not looking for any kind of feminist, but you and wuzzles would be the first feminists I ever met who actually defend pornography. PorNO after all is a standard feminist mantra isnt it. I think many here still sound like people in Germany in the 70s, before porn was legalized, when most predicted that the liberalization would result in less sexual violence. Well it did not, it mainly lead to desensitisation esp. since the online market opened.



I disagree. You said you were 'surprised' that no feminists have responded. But how would you know that one or many haven't responded already? You obvously (as you state in the above paragraph) believe femininists to be anti-porn. That is not true. I suggest you do some reading on feminism, especially sex-positive feminism which you can find info on here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-positive_feminism.



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There I see a problem with the overexposure to it. It interferes with youngsters' sex-life long before they actually have one, today teenagers and even younger ones are consuming porn (mainly online) long before they start having sex, and many base their values and expectations (and later their actions) on what they see there, especially if they do not have parents to whom they can talk about sexuality. I think children should not learn about sexuality and relationships from porn, but learn what they need to know about relationships and get basic education about sexuality first from their parents and also in school. Im from a liberal Christian background (not so sure if this combination exists in the US), and while I knew that I could ask my parents anything (not that I always did) and was not much embarrassed when watching a love scene in a movie as a teen, I am (as an elderly adult, hehe) more and more disgusted by the state of things now, and fear where this might lead to and what will become of children who grow up like that.



Well moral standards are different here, like I mentioned nudity itself is not generally considered immoral, which is great like when I am at a beach where all people choose to be naked, etc. Sexuality itself is not tabooed as much as it seems to be in the US (media) either, which is good when it comes to sex education in school, etc.

But this permissiveness also leads to daytime TV reports about SM prostitution and talk shows where people discuss things no child imho should hear let alone see. And it leads to people thinking porn is rather harmless, and restrictions would be worse.

Many even young children have TV/computers in their rooms here, and many parents dont check what they watch let alone discuss what they (can or have) see(n).

I think this overexposure to sexual contents and images is dangerous for them and like you mentioned it desensitizes people. Of course this is to blame as much on the lacking responsibility of many parents who simply neglect their kids. But the industry is not so innocent either as they have no interest in protecting kids from it, because they are (future) customers

Many kids here are listening to rap with lyrics that mainly glorify rape, and are exchanging porn films on their mobile phones like nothing, and more are making their own films, incl. rape.

When I was in high school teachers had to control school toilets to prevent demolition and drug sale/abuse, today they likelier have to prevent porn film making in action.



I just do not feel like joining in the general chime how 100% great porn is. You all do what you want, I never objected to responsible porn viewing or making, and Im certainly not predicting you hell or anything like the crazy TV preachers overthere seem to. But I feel free to question a general need for porn for every adult that some seemed to promote I thought, and I feel a need to address that this is not just about we are all so mature and liberal and happy lalalaaa but about children and teenagers being exposed to contents they cannot handle, too. Maybe not in the US, but where I live.



Rant, I know.



You are confusing two different topics. One is porn, viewed and performed by adults and the second is children being unsupervised by their parents. If a person chooses to have children, then it is their responsibility to raise them. If [general] you do not what your child to accidentally watch something 'adult' on tv, then it's your job to restrict what they view. I do think that the majority of the adult entertainment industry does try to keep children away, while at the same time, advertise their product to adults. After all, most adults only want to engage sexually with other adults and these companies don't want children messing with their bottom line. It becomes tricky when children are left on their own to search the internet or to watch television. And with regards to sex education, if you want to be the one to teach your children about that then by all means, do so. But to force everyone else to be "hush hush" about sex until you speak to them, is absurd. Why should other people censor themselves because of your choice to have children? Television, radio, internet, movies, books ... they are created for the public as a whole. It's your responsibility as an individual, if you so choose, to keep yourself (and your children) from those mediums if you don't approve of them, not the other way around.



I really wish we could set up an internet domain .xxx and all adult entertainment would need to be www.____.xxx and so people would be able to block out anything with .xxx and not have the option of accidentally searching porn sites. Then maybe parents will stop trying to blame everyone but themselves for their childrens viewing activities.



And I think all this hysterical "What about the CHILLLDREN!" BS is silly. Pornography in different meduims has been around for centuries, in about every culture. I'm sure that back when familes shared one bed or all slept in one room, children heard and saw their own parents having sex. Sex and various forms of porn isn't new and it isn't destroying the world, like some people want to believe. And our now constant repression of anything sexual has made things worse, not better. When you repress and push down people's feelings and urges and natural behaviors, you will get a lot of extreme and sometimes even unhealthy reactions bubbling up to the surface. The US, for instance, is at the same time very sexually repressed and sexually obsessed. We (as a whole) can't discuss sex and sexuality openly and we can't behave sexually in a natural way so that it all festers and we become so consumed with it.



I don't believe that anyone is asking or demaning that you enjoy or like porn, Quinoa, and if someone is then they are wrong for doing so. But the generalizations and misinformation on your part are not helpful either. And although I may be 'defending' pornography, I am not a huge fan of all mediums of porn myself. I don't have to like something for myself in order to defend other people's rights to it. I'd really like us (society as a whole) to get to place where we can have enough self-awareness to allow other's to be self-aware and to behave in ways that feels right to them, as consenting adults.
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I haven't had a chance to read all the responses here. This is a long thread already! But I'll throw in my two cents worth.



First, when you ask if all men watch porn, you need to clarify the question a little better. Are you talking actual videos of people having sex? Or would looking at a Playboy magazine also count? What about stuff without nudity like the famous Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue?



Personally, as a straight guy, I like looking at attractive women. No surprise there. That's pretty much the definition of the phrase "straight guy".



But the actual act of sex isn't visually appealing to me, so I don't watch porn videos or look at those types of pictures. Sure, I've seen them once or twice in the past, but watching the action of having sex just doesn't appeal to me.



I'd rather just see a picture of a woman by herself in a sexy pose, not even necessarily nude.



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What about porn that isn't paid for? Like freegan porn? Does anyone still frown on that, can it be considered bad?

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What about porn that isn't paid for? Like freegan porn? Does anyone still frown on that, can it be considered bad?



Dude i just about fell out of the chair laughing at that one. I watch porn every now and then . im happily married and my wife knows. Do I ignore her for porn? yea right nothing beats the real thing.
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Can't speak for all men... especially since I'm not one... but my boyfriend watches porn... specifically my porn... I have a small collection of videos & we sometimes watch them together, etc... I don't know anyone who's never seen it, honestly I don't think it's a big deal unless it affects your life... other than that, no prob
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What about porn that isn't paid for? Like freegan porn? Does anyone still frown on that, can it be considered bad?

Are they digitally produced images, or are they made with gelatin-based film?



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Porn exploits women, so isn't watching it kind of like drinking milk?
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some porn exploits women.

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some porn exploits women.



some porn companies exploit women. People exploit people ... neutral concepts such as 'porn' don't.
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Yeah yeah yeah. My point was about "some" vs. "all".



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Yeah, I suppose gay male porn doesn't exploit women.
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Which then leads us to the question, "Does porn encourage viewing other people as things, not as people?" And if so, does it do that more than other forms of entertainment do? Does stand-up comedy, for example, encourage us to view the comedian(-nne) as merely a funny thing or a whole person who can tell a good joke?

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#119 Old 07-14-2007, 06:01 PM
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Women exploit themselves by getting into the business. Cattle don't sign on the dotted line and get paid to have their milk taken. With the rare exception of the emotionally weak, abused girl who is manipulated, these girls go where the money, attention, and drugs are. Most are strippers who found something that pays more for what they are doing behind closed doors anyway. No one twists their arm behind their back and forces them to open up for the camera.



I spent many years single, broke (and attractive.) It would have been easy and tempting to shed my clothes for bucks, but I waitressed instead. I didn't want to sell my body that way. It is a matter of career choice to the ladies involved.
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Women exploit themselves by getting into the business.



Well, that's some odd thinking. So, a women who chooses to go into the adult entertainment business and doesn't feel exploited ...is wrong? It matters not how the individual women feels? We, as women, must ALL feel the same way? And that is to feel exploited? By our own choices? So, even if she really doesn't feel exploited, she is? No matter what? Because you say so?







FWIW, I reeeeaallllllly hate that 'penetration = rape' way of thinking. Women can and do enjoy sex. And some enjoy sex and money so they put the two together and go into the AE business. I see no difference between this kind of anti-women feminist thinking (women are weak/easily manipulated and can't/don't make their own sexual choices) and the typical misogynist thinking (women are weak/easily manipulated and can't/don't make their own sexual choices). Women just can't win, can they ...? We're either a money-hungry attention whore or we're abused and exploited.
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