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The real question is: Why don't more women watch porn?



I think they do, they just don't admit it.
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Men who live in impoverished nations?



I'm told male truck drivers in India tend to visit prostitutes.



If it's gotta be porn or prostitutes, I'd definitely rather my man was into porn, but I'm still not comfortable with it.



To some couples, porn counts as cheating. To others, it doesn't. Point is, if your SO objects, don't unless you're breaking up and feeling like hurting him/her.

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I agree with everyone who is saying most, but not all men. I don't think it's bad unless it's starting to have negative effects on a relationship (example: the man would rather watch porn than have intercourse or cannot stop if he want to... addiction).
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I think they do, they just don't admit it.



In some circles, such as Christians, where porn consumption is taboo, women who consume it (or have any expression of sexual interests) have it harder than men who do. If you're constantly told that women don't have this "problem," and you feel guilty about it, who ya gonna tell? Not only are you a bad Christian, but you're also a bad woman.



Thankfully, some people are wising up. The condemnation isn't what it once was.

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Obviously women watch porn too, it just isn't "advertised" as much. I prefer reading erotica to looking at stuff, that's just me - every person's preferences/beliefs/standards/interests are going to be different, I don't think it's accurate to say "every" guy watches it...



This isn't true in all cases, but I think more women enjoy reading erotica because it's more of a mental experience than a physical one. Most men just want visual stimulation while women want more of an emotional experience. This is why those Fabio-like novels are targeted towards women.



Maybe this is why I find more fanfics written by women than men.



Like I said though, this doesn't apply to everyone.
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In some circles, such as Christians, where porn consumption is taboo, women who consume it (or have any expression of sexual interests) have it harder than men who do. If you're constantly told that women don't have this "problem," and you feel guilty about it, who ya gonna tell? Not only are you a bad Christian, but you're also a bad woman.



Thankfully, some people are wising up. The condemnation isn't what it once was.



I agree with you! That's so sad though. I don't see anything wrong with responsible porn viewing. I mean, there's nothing there that I (along with most other adults) haven't seen before. We've all seen ourselves naked in the mirror before. As my Mom says, once you've seen one, you've seen them all. *hahaha*



I was watching something on the History Channel about the History of sex. Adult pictures and videos aren't a new thing. Did you know that pornographic cartoons used to be on the borders of some Bibles? (I really hope I'm remembering that right) It wasn't until the Victorian era that the views on sex began to change.
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I don't know about porn on Bibles, but I do know that although the Bible was the first thing printed on Gutenburg's printing press, the second thing printed was erotic stories. It seems to be the thing with new technologies. I'm sure there were naughty things done with Morse code, too.

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I don't know about porn on Bibles, but I do know that although the Bible was the first thing printed on Gutenburg's printing press, the second thing printed was erotic stories. It seems to be the thing with new technologies. I'm sure there were naughty things done with Morse code, too.



I remember hearing that. I'm almost sure about the Bible thing now that I think about it. Only the rich could afford the "erotic version" though. Kinky people *giggles*



Oh, I bet you're right about the morse code. Humans are sexual beings, things haven't changed much since the beginning of human existence



I wish the History channel would replay the series again... it was rather interesting!
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I mean, there's nothing there that I (along with most other adults) haven't seen before. We've all seen ourselves naked in the mirror before. As my Mom says, once you've seen one, you've seen them all. *hahaha*



I dunno...I'm a pretty open-minded adult, and there's definitely been porn containing stuff I haven't seen before. And, frankly, some stuff I wish I could *un*-see.



Like that microbiology textbook I stole back from Sevenseas. *shudder*
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I think more women enjoy reading erotica because it's more of a mental experience than a physical one. Most men just want visual stimulation while women want more of an emotional experience. This is why those Fabio-like novels are targeted towards women.

I think women definitely go for the mental/emotional thing while men prefer the visual more...



And "Fabio-like novels"? Ewww... Not what I had in mind when I said erotica. heehee.
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I think women definitely go for the mental/emotional thing while men prefer the visual more...



And "Fabio-like novels"? Ewww... Not what I had in mind when I said erotica. heehee.

I don't know if it's unemotional for men. Most men I've talked to like to have some sort of emotional investment in the pleasure of one or more depicted parties.





(Oh, man. My technical description of porn is sooooo not hot.)
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I am quite sure she does not think I am unemotional.... As a matter of fact, I know that for sure!
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I dont watch it anymore. I used to a bit but then I started to find it all a bit ugly. Its a grubby industry behind the scenes and its difficult for me to detach from that in my head whenever i see it. Its easier for me to just use my imagination and have a guilt free w***
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I propose a cruelty free porn company.



Anyone with me? We can make it green, and have a low environmental impact!



We would need a name...?
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I propose a cruelty free porn company.



Anyone with me? We can make it green, and have a low environmental impact!



We would need a name...?

There already is one, called Sevenseas' humane Oompa-Loompas Productions. Check out www.oompaloompasgonedirty.com for info on the latest releases.

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I don't think I've ever met a man who didn't watch pornography, but I would hope that there are some wonderful souls out there who have never done it or have decided to get rid of this habit.

I'm just wondering why a man who doesn't watch porn would be "wonderful"? Do you just mean wonderful to you personally or is it more like an assumption that a man who doesn't watch porn is somehow better than one who does?



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The real question is: Why don't more women watch porn?



Well here's the thing: Hetero porn is mostly boobs and "actress contorting face" (usually with boobs in shot). I don't find boobs interesting. Gay porn of course has no boobs which is good but man on man stuff is only slightly less boring than boobs. And the rare "porn for women" has a friggin' story taking up most of the running time. As if this isn't bad enough the story is always crappy too, and never has aliens or robots in it.



So there is a major shortage of appealing porn for straight women. I feel that this serious issue deserves more attention than it gets.
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I propose a cruelty free porn company.



Anyone with me? We can make it green, and have a low environmental impact!



We would need a name...?



There's always those crazy guys, Tommy & Leona at 'f**kforforest.com'
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Hell no, I reach my download limit fast enough as it is.
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I agree with you! That's so sad though. I don't see anything wrong with responsible porn viewing. I mean, there's nothing there that I (along with most other adults) haven't seen before. We've all seen ourselves naked in the mirror before.

To me theres still a difference between seeing ourselves or each other naked or watching other people actually having sex (and not just pretending like for example in an R-rated Hollywood movie), and doing some things that some of us Im sure havent seen before, and some of us dont want to see either. I also think there is a difference between erotic pictures (from drawings on ancient Greek pottery to photography in Playboy magazine) and real porn films.

Personally I have no inhibitions to be at a nudist beach or in a sauna, but I just feel no need or desire to watch strangers having sex, just like I feel no desire to have sex in public.

To me, thats a question of privacy or intimacy.

The society I live in is rather sexualised already, trashy afternoon talkshows (most language is not even beeped), phone sex commercials, soft porn are all shown on public TV. Recently I was at a (pretty average folks I thought) garden party where children were around too, and someone was playing songs with lyrics that went into detail about practices which I think cant be mentioned here. A very long way gone from the song I wanna make you sweat! Another adult actually asked if maybe I knew what a certain term she had not heard before meant, and I said yes from hearsay but Id be happy to leave it at that. Not all of us want to try everything just because it is possible.

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Thankfully, some people are wising up. The condemnation isn't what it once was.

Condemnation, is not wise. But un-declaring all taboos is not wise either. Not everything that is widely tolerated today, is in the best interest of society. I think that some taboos are rather necessary and justified. Some people are even consuming porn films when their children are around, thinking this is the most natural thing in the world or theyre even doing their kids a favour by being so open-minded.

I think it is only fair to respect that there are people who do not want to watch porn films because the porn kind of sexuality (not thinking of practices, but values) cannot be combined with their view of sexuality as something intimate, private, special and between partners who love and respect each other.

Porn films show sexuality from a perspective that is different from the perspective within a relationship/marriage. Sexuality in a porn film is rather isolated from the rest of life, mainly kind of a product that is given and taken. It is isolated from love, too, and it is often abusive. Probably it is these differences that make porn attractive for some people, but I think it would be hazardous to think of the porn kind of sexuality as an ideal, which is what is likely to happen if children/teens are exposed to it.

People who want to watch porn should consume it in a responsible way, which Id consider with the consent of their partner, not in the presence of children, and make sure to only watch films from reliable sources that guarantee (if thats possible) there is no exploitation involved.



Also, I think one should realize that this is a huge industry, and porn is certainly not promoted to liberate people from the possible chains of a strict upbringing, but simply to make money and nothing else. Like with every business, I think it is only wise to watch out who really pays the prize, and who really profits.



Wrt to the OP: I would assume that the majority of people on this planet simply has no access to porn (films) or not as easily as we do. Im not sure if theyre really missing a lot.



Just my opinion of course.

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Some are very religious so don't for that reason, believing it to be wrong.



Suuuuurrre.........



Real religous people don't do that kind of stuff, just like priests never would do stuff with choirboys, huh?
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Suuuuurrre.........



Real religous people don't do that kind of stuff, just like priests never would do stuff with choirboys, huh?



If you read my post I was talking specifically about my male friends not every religious guy. The ones that are religious & don't want anything to do with it do it because of their interpretation of their religion. Other religious guys may see it differently but thats the reason these guys have given
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I don't think I've ever met a man who didn't watch pornography,



You should be writing late night commercials. Do you really ask every man you meet this question? I find it hard to believe you find every man willing to answer and totally lack long pauses of awkward silence. If you come back, maybe you should explain. The chatline is open. We're waiting for you...
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has anyone just answered it straight?



no, not all men watch porn. some men do, some of those who do are 'addicts' and some are not, and there are some men who don't watch porn--some for 'good reasons' (eg, they don't want to, they're in recovery from porn/sex addiction) and others for the wrong reasons.
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And "Fabio-like novels"? Ewww... Not what I had in mind when I said erotica. heehee.



haha... I've never read one and have no interest. But that's the only example I could come up with immediately I know you didn't mean that to be erotica, just showing how women are more into the details and emotions I think Fabio popped into my head because I was watching America's Next Top Model 2 days ago where they did the photo shoot with him (a pic like the cover of one of those cheesey novels).
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To me theres still a difference between seeing ourselves or each other naked or watching other people actually having sex (and not just pretending like for example in an R-rated Hollywood movie), and doing some things that some of us Im sure havent seen before, and some of us dont want to see either. I also think there is a difference between erotic pictures (from drawings on ancient Greek pottery to photography in Playboy magazine) and real porn films.

Personally I have no inhibitions to be at a nudist beach or in a sauna, but I just feel no need or desire to watch strangers having sex, just like I feel no desire to have sex in public.

To me, thats a question of privacy or intimacy.

The society I live in is rather sexualised already, trashy afternoon talkshows (most language is not even beeped), phone sex commercials, soft porn are all shown on public TV. Recently I was at a (pretty average folks I thought) garden party where children were around too, and someone was playing songs with lyrics that went into detail about practices which I think cant be mentioned here. A very long way gone from the song I wanna make you sweat! Another adult actually asked if maybe I knew what a certain term she had not heard before meant, and I said yes from hearsay but Id be happy to leave it at that. Not all of us want to try everything just because it is possible.



My comment was sorta a joke. Honestly, I'm almost completely desensitized to sexual things thanks to Hollywood movies and my own experience. I used to get SO embarassed when I was a teen seeing even PG-13 things. Now I'm like "Yeah, whatever." I don't care what people do in their spare time unless it's affecting others, especially children. I think children are over-exposed to sex these days. The average age a person loses their virginity is lower than it ever was. Teen sex has always been an issue though. I'm concerned about this because of the high teen pregnancy rate (which is actually decreasing, but still high) and the fact that children who are too young to deal with it emotionally are having it. I don't think porn is to blame for this, although I know very young boys commonly view it.



I definately agree with you about a difference between erotic pictures and real porn films. They are totally different. Erotic pictures tend to have more of an artistic expression while pornography... is just porn (that doesn't need to be explained). To each their own though Like I've said already (in other posts, not this one), I don't see a problem with porn if it's viewed responsibily (it should not affect a person's existing sex-life, it should be okay-ed through both individuals in the relationship if one exists, and it should not be occuring multiple times a day). When a person feels the need to view it a few times a day, then you know it's an addiction. Addictions are very unhealthy.



And wait... you don't like trash tv? *hehe* My bf and I love to make fun of it. Most of the bleeping out is from the audience. Do they randomly just shout out cuss words? It's weird.
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I dunno...I'm a pretty open-minded adult, and there's definitely been porn containing stuff I haven't seen before. And, frankly, some stuff I wish I could *un*-see.



Like that microbiology textbook I stole back from Sevenseas. *shudder*



haha, I was sorta joking when I said that I'm a pretty open-minded person and things still shock me *hehe*



Me: "I didn't know people could do that"



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I don't think I've ever met a man who didn't watch pornography, but I would hope that there are some wonderful souls out there who have never done it or have decided to get rid of this habit.



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My wife is the one who always rents the porn. I find it about as interesting as watching laundry dry. Ill watch for a few minutes and go back to what I was doing. Shell pop a brewsky and watch the whole thing.
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I think the majority of sexual humans have an interest in what other people are doing and how, whether that interest is expressed through pornography, erotica, or just discussions with friends/partners, I think the interest is unavoidable.



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The real question is: Why don't more women watch porn?



Coming from a woman who has watched a LOT of porn (my friends, male and female, and I used to hold "porn night" in college -- it involved a lot of beer) Because porn designed for men sucks. I have my own boobs I could stare at if I wanted to, and they're not all fake and day-glo tanned. Watching women fake orgasms in 24958 impossible positions isn't hot. Gay porn is too much "nice to meet you lets get down to business" and chick porn is too much "lets talk about our feeeeeeelings and then you can go down on me" soft-core. It's all too fake.



I think if someone could come up with good porn for chicks and a discreet way to sell it they'd be golden.

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I think the majority of sexual humans have an interest in what other people are doing and how, whether that interest is expressed through pornography, erotica, or just discussions with friends/partners, I think the interest is unavoidable.







Coming from a woman who has watched a LOT of porn (my friends, male and female, and I used to hold "porn night" in college -- it involved a lot of beer) Because porn designed for men sucks. I have my own boobs I could stare at if I wanted to, and they're not all fake and day-glo tanned. Watching women fake orgasms in 24958 impossible positions isn't hot. Gay porn is too much "nice to meet you lets get down to business" and chick porn is too much "lets talk about our feeeeeeelings and then you can go down on me" soft-core. It's all too fake.



I think if someone could come up with good porn for chicks and a discreet way to sell it they'd be golden.



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