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#61 Old 04-16-2005, 10:53 AM
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Ummm..little paranoid are'nt we? Im not the only one that see's it that way FR..If I was I would say you have a valid complaint. But the overwhelming majority see it for what it is. If it wasnt intentional, then apologize and edit it to something else. The idea of the Tame working for the Kerry camp book is a HOOT! All you need to do is take the stereotyping remarks out. That would be the best way to prove your intent was sincere.
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#62 Old 04-16-2005, 10:55 AM
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Water girls?? Water people?? Water Person??



Maybe, but seriously, never head of them being called anything but water boys.
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I still think Tame is white as I never have seen a picture of him, and I do not recall any instance of him referring to himself as black. Some of you are actually being stereotypical for assuming he is black.



My jab was simply of political nature as it is obvious he leans to the right of the political spectrum. I do not have any reason to lie about it. If I meant otherwise, I would just say so.



Thank my photographic memory for recalling where this is posted .
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#64 Old 04-16-2005, 11:01 AM
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He's lying. Theres a history here from another board. He knows perfectly well what Tame's race is. Then to add the "boy" tag on to it only confirms his intent.

Well, I'm not inside his head, so I can't say with any certainty what his intent was, but I can say that I saw no inference to race in his post.



Even the use of "boy" in "shoe shine boy" doesn't equate rascial intent to me. I'm sure that there were plenty of white shoe shiners that happen to be boys in history.
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ETA: Cleveland is 41.5% white, 51% african american, 7.3% hispanic or latino . Median houshold income = $25,000+. Persons below poverty = more than 26%



Charlotte, NC on the otherhand is 58.3% white and only 32.7% african american. Median household income = $46,000+. Persons below poverty = more than 10%.



Intersting.



I live here now:



Carmel, IN



White: 93%

African American: 1%

Asian: 4%

Other/Mixed: 2%

Median Household Income: $ 81,583

Median Value of Homes: $ 201,400



Which is a suburb of Indianapolis, IN:



White: 69%

African American: 26%

Asian: 1%

Other/Mixed: 4%

Median Household Income: $ 40,051

Median Value of Homes: $ 96,600



However, I grew up in Buffalo, NY (YUK!!!!):



White: 54%

African American: 37%

Native American: 1%

Asian: 1%

Other/Mixed: 7%

Median Household Income: $ 24,536

Median Value of Homes: $ 58,800



Ghetto city for sure ^^^



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Wasn't Adam Sandler in Water Boy. Ummmm, he's white.
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Well, I'm not inside his head, so I can't say with any certainty what his intent was, but I can say that I saw no inference to race in his post.



Even the use of "boy" in "shoe shine boy" doesn't equate rascial intent to me. I'm sure that there were plenty of white shoe shiners that happen to be boys in history.



I said shoe shiner. The funny thing is, so many people keep saying I said "shoe shine boy"? Where are they getting that from? And even if I did, like you said, plenty of boys, of all races, were or are shoe shine boys.
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Shoe shining is a dying art.
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Shoe shining is a dying art.



yes, I should take a class, although I don't think you need to shine vegan shoes
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Shoe shining is a dying art.



I saw a few at the Indianapolis International Airport.



I was tempted to get shine, but I was in a rush.
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We have 2 downtown here. I've never had my shoes shined. I just take a damp rag to them if the get dirty/dusty. Payless plastic doesn't need that much maintenance.
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I live in the urban city..Cleveland, which is very mixed from African American, Hispanic, Polish, Iranian, Italian, Puerto Rican, and European. Maybe that's why I don't see/feel it as much?? I'm talking about racially motivated crap. It's just not a big deal around here. I'm sure it exists...it can all be rainbows and sunshine. But, I can go to a club and see a good mix of people of all nationalities/backgrounds groovin and dancin together. I can go to the park and see older people playing chess together, or mixed couples laying around together on the beach..stuff like that.



Now, I can drive into Parma, which is predominently white and middle to upper class, and to a point I feel out of place. It's weird.



ETA: Cleveland is 41.5% white, 51% african american, 7.3% hispanic or latino . Median houshold income = $25,000+. Persons below poverty = more than 26%



Charlotte, NC on the otherhand is 58.3% white and only 32.7% african american. Median household income = $46,000+. Persons below poverty = more than 10%.



Thanks, those stats helped me visualize better!
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Water girls?? Water people?? Water Person??

Those that water??
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Umm..still he dances..case closed
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Let's move on from the "was FR being racist" discussion. He's stated that he didn't mean the comment as such, others have said they do/don't believe him. Tame says he doesn't care.

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I can't stand to listen to Chris Rock. He's so anti-white. I believe he's a racist. Try getting some white guy up there raggin on black people the way he does and see what happens. Nowadays it see PC to rag on white people but a big taboo for white people to rag on black people (in the comedy world).



Funny...I found he was rather anti-black during the Oscars. Making fun of "black trash".
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Could that be because the Oscars are predominently white? Anyhow, they only had him on there to boost ratings because he's considered contraversial. . But I agree. He's an equal opportunity racist.
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Let's move on from the "was FR being racist" discussion. He's stated that he didn't mean the comment as such, others have said they do/don't believe him. Tame says he doesn't care.



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But I had to defend him..he's so fragile!
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I think the term "white trash" is appropriate as there are some people who simply live up to that term.



i feel that this is a very ugly thing to say. i don't know about your situation, but maybe it's easy to say that if you haven't ever lived in a trailer or been called that yourself as a child.
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Those that water??



Hydration specialists.
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i feel that this is a very ugly thing to say. i don't know about your situation, but maybe it's easy to say that if you haven't ever lived in a trailer or been called that yourself as a child.

Poor FR, he can't seem to say anything right.



Living in a trailer, in and of it self isn't what makes one "white trash". I think it refers to someone's behavior or mind set.
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Poor FR, he can't seem to say anything right.



Living in a trailer, in and of it self isn't what makes one "white trash". I think it refers to someone's behavior or mind set.



Bingo, we have a winner.
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Bingo, we have a winner.

FR, stop making me come to your defense all the time. What will people think?
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FR, stop making me come to your defense all the time. What will people think?



I'll return the favor if needed.



Seriously, though, you just have enough sense to realize what I am trying to say. Others can lean a lot from you.
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I'll return the favor if needed.

Actually, it's not a favor. I tend to defend those who I feel are being misunderstood.



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Seriously, though, you just have enough sense to realize what I am trying to say. Others can lean a lot from you.

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stop being so cute in this thread, you're making me blush now what was the topic again ?.....



at a guess what to include about is euthenism of things but they don't all have to be race based do they Kachina ?....your call of course/ your thread.



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On the other hand, some would argue that the terms in question are so specific that it is unlikely that they would [N]ever be used randomly in a purely innocent fashion. Consequently, the protestation that "I didn't mean it racially" would be unlikely to be true.



Discuss among yourselves.



To be very specific about my something about your intro I would like to nazify your grammar and add the letter N to ever, which it appears you left off Just a tip to help put right as I see it.



Not obsessively a grammar nazi myself, nor spelling guru, but your intro was too cool to let one missing letter slide.
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at a guess what to include about is euthenism of things but they don't all have to be race based do they Kachina ?....your call of course/ your thread.



Nope, not necessarily, although racial terms tend to cause the most conflict.



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To be very specific about my something about your intro I would like to nazify your grammar and add the letter N to ever, which it appears you left off Just a tip to help put right as I see it.



Not obsessively a grammar nazi myself, nor spelling guru, but your intro was too cool to let one missing letter slide.



Awww - thanks!



Not much of a grammarian myself, so you may well be right.



The statement was "unlikely that they would ever be used randomly". "Unlikely to ever" = "Probably never", and "unlikely to never" = "probably always". I think. At least, that was the intent.



I probably should have stayed awake during that formal logic class.
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you might jest in translation of reverb or vernacular but I think you're right, as likewise am I, EVER or NEVER....depending merely on how you imagine or know people to be using terms out of context~ whether randomly, how often, and for what reasons... (*a mindless person malphrasing perhaps thinking very little*). Diluted meanings burst the speech bubble and hurray we have kaos for nonsense

to have free reign in playing devil advaocate with whichever the facts, whereby the full or true meaning of terms is basicly abused, by casually spoken youth for example. In other words, not caring for truth of origin or definition. Most people at some stage in their lives intersperse important matters with trivial attitude, and whilst maybe sometimes in semi comfortable contention, likely, odds are people this way end up falsifying facts lost in casual contraversy lost in translation (deliberately amusing it is to confuse matters for some people)..... For what purpose

is to seek effect of cheap arousal ORbeit fun, although "beguiling" put to use other than benign ignorance/innocence/miseducation etc, is not nearly so funny, except if just an innocence which tends to be just an abuse waiting to happen anyway when things get distorted. Ignorance and miseducation are 2 way too ugly inter-related things.
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