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#91 Old 03-01-2005, 04:21 PM
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Don't give up, Organica. It may also be a matter of finding the right combination of medication, therapy, and lifestyle.
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Yup organica, keep working on it.



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BTW, I meant to post this a couple of days ago: There have been studies that show that thought patterns will actually establish a kind of "groove" in your brain that makes it more likely that the same patterns will repeat/become stronger. That is, negative thoughts will, in effect, establish a physical propensity for continued and increased negative thoughts. That's why cognitive therapy/cognitive awareness is so important. By focusing on the negative, by letting negative thoughts be, you are actually creating a downward spiral that makes deprssion worse, which of course leads to more negative thoughts, which...etc., etc. And that's something that can be physically tracked in your brain.
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>>BTW, I meant to post this a couple of days ago: There have been studies that show that thought patterns will actually establish a kind of "groove" in your brain that makes it more likely that the same patterns will repeat/become stronger. That is, negative thoughts will, in effect, establish a physical propensity for continued and increased negative thoughts. That's why cognitive therapy/cognitive awareness is so important. By focusing on the negative, by letting negative thoughts be, you are actually creating a downward spiral that makes deprssion worse, which of course leads to more negative thoughts, which...etc., etc. And that's something that can be physically tracked in your brain.>>



If we accept that the mind is physical, seated in but not limited to the brain, then this is necessarily true. What else would experience be but pattern of neurochemical activity elicited in response to the body and external environment? Anyway, if you've seen the same studies I have, these go so far as to argue that CBT will have a measurable effect on neuromodulatory function (e.g., levels of serotonin).



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If we accept that the mind is physical, seated in but not limited to the brain,



I don't accept that. But I'm a bit of a cogsci heretic. I think that talking about the brain as isolated in the skull is a bit misleading.
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>>I don't accept that. But I'm a bit of a cogsci heretic. I think that talking about the brain as isolated in the skull is a bit misleading.>>



I was actually a bit unclear and am inclined to agree with you. There was a reason I said that the mind is "seated in BUT NOT LIMITED to the brain". The non-brain body is integral to the emergence of subjective experience. The most glaring example I can think of off the top of my head is the role of activity in the sympathetic nervous system in the experience of emotion. I would also wager that if we ever have brains in vats, we would need some sort of device that simulates the body's input to come near to approximating human experience.



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