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#31 Old 01-29-2005, 10:43 PM
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Sucks being you, doesn't it Foxy?
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It's not always easy to be a beautiful young woman...



You should read my thread in the Diet & Weight forum:



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The reality of being very pretty really isn't every girl's fantasy, just every boy's.







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I was actually the first person to post in that thread, Rev
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I was actually the first person to post in that thread, Rev



Well, then I guess you DON'T need to read it. Do you WANT to read it? Please read it!







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Doesn't it make you incredibly uncomfortable that grown men like Soilman see girls like your step daughter as a way to an erection, Rev?

How young are we talking? I think there is a huge difference between young girls and young women.
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/sigh Again, being someone who can barely coordinate matching socks in the morning, looks is the last thing I think about when finding someone worth looking twice at.



I like sterotypical geeks. Those are the men I've always gotten along with. I'm comfortable around them. If I walked into a bar and all the jockey, studdly men all looked at me, I'd probably walked out, terrified. However, when I walk into a gaming store during a Classic BattleTech weekend party and all the guys in the store turn their heads and the store clerks come running to ask me if I want to play...now that I can handle. Why? Because they are my people



word me too.
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Doesn't it make you incredibly uncomfortable that grown men like Soilman see girls like your step daughter as a way to an erection, Rev?

How young are we talking? I think there is a huge difference between young girls and young women.



There have been a few grown men around here that have made specific sexual comments about under 18s...some comments even about VBers. I find that pretty gross.



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There have been a few grown men around here that have made specific sexual comments about under 18s...some comments even about VBers. I find that pretty gross.





Well, I also find it repulsive. It is next to impossible to have respect for the men who feel that way.
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word me too.



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There have been a few grown men around here that have made specific sexual comments about under 18s...some comments even about VBers. I find that pretty gross.



BTW, good to see ya Erin



Yep. It's because of that, that if I had a daughter, I would not be at all comfortable with her coming here. There is a difference between appreciating someone's beauty and wanting to have sex with her because of it.



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I agree totally, Erin.



There are lots of other reasons why I wouldn't let my teenage child come here, but the questionable actions of some here definately are a factor.
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Well, then I guess you DON'T need to read it. Do you WANT to read it? Please read it!







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omg i sooo loved that thread till i read this. just by saying you get more from an experience with a 16 year old ( your "beeautiful" stepdaughters age) than you current S.O. (who i assume is who's daughter you speak of in the barbie thread) is just a little....eew.

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You should read my thread in the Diet & Weight forum:



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omg i sooo loved that thread till i read this. just by saying you get more from an experience with a 16 year old ( your "beeautiful" stepdaughters age) than your current S.O. (who i assume is who's daughter you speak of in the barbie thread) is just a little....eew.

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There's millions of gorgeous people in the world. The kicker is how they present themselves, their personalities and attitudes. I consider peoples' appearances. I also consider their personalities. I tend to notice how people present themselves (clothes, hair, etc) more than what they were born with though.



It's like books, man. If I'm going through the library and I see a really gross, stained, wrinkled, blotched, torn book, I just don't feel inclined to pick it up. But if I know for some reason that it's a good book I'll check it out. It might just take longer for it to grow on me.



(I really don't like used books.)
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Men start losing interest in women physically just as soon as they start getting interesting as people. It can't be helped, it's biology.

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This just makes me want to die before I get any uglier.

I hope, as Kurmudgeon & beforewisdom said in another thread, Rev is once again mostly, if not totally, speaking for *himself*.
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It's not always easy to be a beautiful young woman...



If I told you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me?



Seriously, for a few years when I was heavy into weight lifting for a brief time in my life I was eye candy. I enjoyed it for about a day.



After that I began to understand the inspiration for many of the cliches I heard women utter about feeling like a peace of meat, objectified etc.



I felt very objectified overhearing women talk about various parts of my body. Interestingly, a lot women just assumed I was dumb because I was very buff and muscular. I did not know that worked both ways. At first it was amusing, then "wtf?", and then it was insulting.



For every attractive woman who I was flattered by with her having paid extra attention to me there were several more women who I did not find attractive or situations where I wanted to be left alone were the attention felt solicitous and sleazy.



I only had to put up with this for about 2 years.



I can only imagine how such experiences shape the mind of a woman who grows up immersed in that kind of treatment.

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From the sounds of this, the young girls who post their pics in the photo album should be a little cautious.
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omg i sooo loved that thread till i read this. just by saying you get more from an experience with a 16 year old ( your "beeautiful" stepdaughters age) than your current S.O. (who i assume is who's daughter you speak of in the barbie thread) is just a little....eew.



But I think that you're missing the fact that Rev is talking about how he felt about that girl when he was in high school (that he was more or at least more easily aroused when he was in high school than he is now). I don't think that he is saying that a 16 year old is getting him off now.
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But I think that you're missing the fact that Rev is talking about how he felt about that girl when he was in high school (that he was more or at least more easily aroused when he was in high school than he is now). I don't think that he is saying that a 16 year old is getting him off now.



Au contraire- I believe that's *exactly* what he's saying. Where is he so we can get the truth?
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The subject of feminine youth and beauty has stirred some controversy lately, so, naturally, I thought it deserved it's own thread. This subject has come up as a part of a number of other related subjects, like Barely Legal Porn and Porn generally; men cheating on their partners with younger, prettier, girls; etc. and it always manages to get feathers ruffled.



Well, sorry if this thread does the same thing, but I feel like I have to say a thing or two about women and their overwhelmingly important looks.



I can't speak for other men, but I honestly believe that the looks issue is an elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. In a world where we are inundated with images of sexuality, 95% of which are images of young women, you also have alot of men saying that looks don't mean much to them. This doesn't follow, and, honestly, I think these men are not being completely honest (I mean, how could they be when all those young hotties are selling so much stuff to them so successfully?). I think for most men, female beauty is very important, and very attention getting, and gives them a great deal of pleasure, but they are unwilling to say so because of the potential to offend women, and/or because they don't think they could get the girl of their dreams, and wish to curry favor with those they consider to be available.



IOW, it's a little like women faking orgasms, with playing down the importance of looks being about the ego of partners, or potential partners, and not about saying it like it is.



For myself, some of my most cherished memories from my youth are so cherished because they involved a young pretty girl, sex, and my hands-on involvement. It was intensely wonderful to feel that way, to have what I had, and hardly a day goes by that I don't think about it.



Now, this does not mean that looks are the ONLY thing that matters. Nor does it mean that other factors cannot be more important. For example, I would not be attracted to a woman with a great body but a lousy attitude, and I think most guys would feel the same way. I would, however, still enjoy looking at her, and would not downplay the pity that such a desireable looking woman had to be such a *****.



Personally, I think it's high time we're honest with ourselves, and with our emotions, and give hotties the credit they deserve. Just because their appreciation is largely a part of the much maligned and "piggish" male sexuality doesn't make their beauty any less important than the beauty of a sunny day, a Mozart symphony, or a happy surprise. Just because a man lusts after something doesn't make it dirty, "animalistic", or less important than more respectable female sensibilities.



Beautiful women are a great thing, and I will always enjoy and admire them, and the many feelings that they inspire (both above and below my waist) as the sublime and wonderful things that they are. And I think it does a great injustice to men to expect them to disown their feelings and sexuality to appease fear, either of not being loved by women because of the way you feel, or that they will not love themselves, or both.







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Rev, you're just getting yourself in deeper. Quit while you're ahead. I have no idea why you started this thread, probably just to piss me off even more.
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Also I have to ask how you can speak of your stepdaughter in that fashion?
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You know...I think you're right rev...in this way...thank you for being honest. I sometimes feel the same way about race, that it's something so many of us feel uncomfortable talking about and instead like to pretend that we don't have feelings about it when obviously we do...because those images are everywhere. And my feeling has always been...how can you hope to fix something you can't even discuss in mixed company.



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This just makes me want to die before I get any uglier.

I hope, as Kurmudgeon & beforewisdom said in another thread, Rev is once again mostly, if not totally, speaking for *himself*.





That was my initial response to this thread but then I thought.. do I really want a man with an attitude like this? I mean, if a guy like this passes us over because we do not look and think like some plastic 16 yo Barbie, well, hell, I'm better off without him.

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I'm telling you people - DATE GEEKS. Not dorks, they only look like geeks, but are dumber then doorknobs. But a true, bonafid geek is where it's at. They don't expect you to match your socks in the morning, mostly because they're having a hard enough time to for themselves.



My bf and I are wonderfully blissful in our world of geekdom. With our odd matching socks
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Also I have to ask how you can speak of your stepdaughter in that fashion?



Because he does not repect women. Simple. What kind of man would refer to his stepdaughter as a "Barbie" if he respected her on any other level than that she had a cute bod?

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Are some of you misinterpreting some of what Rev has said just to have something to ***** about?



"I honestly think it is proof that God has a cruel sense of humor when you consider this. Men start losing interest in women physically just as soon as they start getting interesting as people. It can't be helped, it's biology. Still, I would love to have the feelings I felt with my High School girlfriends (especially Sharon ) with my current S/O. It kinda sucks to think that the most aroused I will ever be was with a confused 16-year old who contributed nothing to my life. "



Hhhhmmmm...nope, nothing near what some of you are accusing him of saying.
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Fine, I shouldn't have used the term animalistic.
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I was referring to his other thread where he referred to his steppdaughter as a beautiful plastic plaything.



And I flat out disagree with him. My ex was 19. I was 33. He genuinely prefers older women. Lots of young men do. Some men like them young. Some men don't care... there's all types out there.

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I was referring to his other thread where he referred to his steppdaughter as a beautiful plastic plaything.





Re-read that thread and why he used the term "Barbie". He was actually quite respectful of his daughter.



But hey, if some of you need to work out your issues through attacking Rev, don't let me stop you.
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Because he does not repect women. Simple. What kind of man would refer to his stepdaughter as a "Barbie" if he respected her on any other level than that she had a cute bod?



I don't want to go back and read the Barbie thread, but if I recall, "Barbie" had more to do with how other people perceive his daughter and don't see how wonderful she is in ways that have nothing to do with looks. He was saying not to dismiss beautiful women as if they have nothing else to offer,I think.
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